spagirl Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Saw and dry tested HS Jetsetter, Artic Prestige, Coleman 461, Sundance Camden, and Master Spa LS1557. I have a space issue due to pitch on concrete, some dealers say I have an inch leeway some say 1/2" & some 3/4". With this said I'm trying to stay with smaller units that won't need to take pitch in to consideration. I'm not finished looking want to see Jacuzzi, as well as Marquis I know I Must Wet Test, what I'm not sure of is the "ball bearing" issue, as well as the a seperate pump for circulation, and Eco Smart verses Ozone System, and there's the Electrical issue 110 vs 220 each dealer offered me an electricial to run 220 line, which was appreciated I think pay electrician now or pay higher electric bills later, lastly pricing was higher than I thought, however 2 dealers said they would be having "End Of Year Sales" next week! Looking forward to your imput. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-soaked Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Stay far and clear from Master Spa (run Forrest run ). They are known for pumps that are power pigs and poor insulation which will cost big bucks in your electric bill to operate. Master Spa tubs have thermal “pain” insulation which are known to leak like a sieve. Master Spa sides are flimsy and their jets are hard to turn on or off. The help desk for Master Spa manufacturing is helpless. They have an “I don’t care attitude”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatech (the unreal one) Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 I know I Must Wet Test, what I'm not sure of is the "ball bearing" issue, as well as the a seperate pump for circulation, and Eco Smart verses Ozone System, and there's the Electrical issue 110 vs 220 each dealer offered me an electricial to run 220 line, which was appreciated I think pay electrician now or pay higher electric bills later, lastly pricing was higher than I thought, however 2 dealers said they would be having "End Of Year Sales" next week! Looking forward to your imput. 1) I assume the "ball bearing" issue is someone selling you on their type of jets and that's fine but its salesmanship. When you wet test you'll decide if you like the jets, don't worry about this. 2) I like the circ pump especially to get ozone 24/7 but that shouldn't dictate your tub. 3) Don't know what Eco Smart versus Ozone means. I'm a big fan of getting a quality ozone and using chlorine with it; easy and effective. 4) 220 is preferable because you can run jets on high and have the heater on at the same time. However, there is NO difference in energy to run that heater to get a certain final temp with 220 or 110. Your bill will be the same. The difference is it heats much slower at 110. It s fallacy that there is a difference in energy used in the spa. 5) ask for their best pricing including all the options you want (get a lifter), wet test, find the spa(s) you want and then try to get an even better deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingSpaGuy Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 5) ask for their best pricing including all the options you want (get a lifter), wet test, find the spa(s) you want and then try to get an even better deal always find this statement funny...if the company gives you the best price, and you then try to get more off...the company that actually gives you more off usually wins but guess what...THEY DIDNT GIVE YOU THE BEST PRICE LOL. Anyone else mind being lied to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soakerman Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 5) ask for their best pricing including all the options you want (get a lifter), wet test, find the spa(s) you want and then try to get an even better deal always find this statement funny...if the company gives you the best price, and you then try to get more off...the company that actually gives you more off usually wins but guess what...THEY DIDNT GIVE YOU THE BEST PRICE LOL. Anyone else mind being lied to? That is why more and more people choose to get spas through a box store as going to a spa dealer is akin to a used car salesman in a plaid jacket and trusting to get the best price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.P. Roberts Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 We just bought a small spa, but the pitch in our concrete was still a problem (we had to shim it). In terms of what you'll have to do to correct the problem, I would be surprised if an extra foot or so in hot tub width would make a difference. I've seen some people build a small wooden platform for the spa to level it out - that probably wouldn't be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brulan1 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I know I Must Wet Test, what I'm not sure of is the "ball bearing" issue, as well as the a seperate pump for circulation, and Eco Smart verses Ozone System, and there's the Electrical issue 110 vs 220 each dealer offered me an electricial to run 220 line, which was appreciated I think pay electrician now or pay higher electric bills later, lastly pricing was higher than I thought, however 2 dealers said they would be having "End Of Year Sales" next week! Looking forward to your imput. 1) I assume the "ball bearing" issue is someone selling you on their type of jets and that's fine but its salesmanship. When you wet test you'll decide if you like the jets, don't worry about this. 2) I like the circ pump especially to get ozone 24/7 but that shouldn't dictate your tub. 3) Don't know what Eco Smart versus Ozone means. I'm a big fan of getting a quality ozone and using chlorine with it; easy and effective. 4) 220 is preferable because you can run jets on high and have the heater on at the same time. However, there is NO difference in energy to run that heater to get a certain final temp with 220 or 110. Your bill will be the same. The difference is it heats much slower at 110. It s fallacy that there is a difference in energy used in the spa. 5) ask for their best pricing including all the options you want (get a lifter), wet test, find the spa(s) you want and then try to get an even better deal I've been doing Ecosmarte for 3 years now and I must say to stay away from the system. In order for the water to stay clear you have to rinse before each use, cannot and I mean CANNOT spill wine, beer ect... otherwise the water gets funky. Also you must have a good measure for the PH and I don't mean those color matching strips I mean Digital Strips made by Hach. Also find something to teszt for calcium as you will need to have it above 400 ppm and the PH must be below 7 but higher than 6.7. Go with the Ozone unless you plan on using the tub with one other person without parties. Ecosmarte is good under lower loads of use and take my word for it. It sounds great but is tricky to get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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