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  1. I just think in my gut that letting the filter dry out might be the cause since under high pressure the pump has to pull water through the filter but at low pressure it is easier to do. I will pull out the filter and see if it still does the same thing.
  2. from the heat return. I wonder since it only stops shooting water into the tub from the heat return if the filter is causing the problem. I left the filter out for a day while I was cleaning the tub. Maybe that was not a good idea. It just seems weird that it only does it when running the jets on high and not on low or when the jets are off.
  3. My 2005 Capri hot tub seems to work Ok but when the jets are turned on high I get a FLO message and I can not feel any water coming into the spa. When I turn the jets to low the FLO message goes away and I feel the water coming in. When I just leave it all alone the temp shows and no FLO message. What would cause this?
  4. I sent the company who builds them a note asking exactly what is inside the switch since it is sealed. All of the above should not affect the switch since it is sealed. I just think it may not be the best design for spas. I see other spas use a completely different design and placement for a flow switch. Anyhow this one is now working just fine.
  5. Hi. Just played with the flo switch and it is a magnet that activates the switch inside the tube part of the switch. The round piece is a low strength magnet that activates probable a reed type switch inside the tube. Reed switches are what most alarm systems use for windows and doors. The magnet causes the contacts to close. Still does not explain why they do not last longer. Maybe the heat does them in???
  6. Ok the spa seems to be fixed. It would not stay running...the cir pump. I finally got the new flo switch and it fixed the problem. I am going to play with the old one to see how they are built. It does not appear to be a contact surface problem but more an internal sw problem. I am wondering if the inside of the tubular part of the switch contains a reed switch and the round part of the other is a magnet. I will play with it. They should last forever!! Third time I've had to replace this. But I guess not bad for a 2005 spa.
  7. UPDATE: It was running fine and then the circulation pump stopped. The FLO error was showing. I applied 240v to the negative pin on the control board and the pump started and everything kicked in and the jets started up etc.. Came back an hour later and the same thing so again I gave a quick touch to the neg pin on the control board and the cir pump started but would not stay. I click the voltage to the neg pin and then looked at the control panel and it still showed FLO but the flow switch was closed. At this point I have to assume the flow switch is indeed bad. Hope that fixes the cir pump staying on the programmed 24hrs run time.
  8. I thought this morning I would enjoy my hot tub but it was showing a flo switch error. The cir. pump was not running. I pulled the wire from the board (It is in a clip type connection) and jumped it to the other side of the 240 to turn on the pump. Then the flow error went away. I put it back on the board and all seemed fine. It feels like the heater is not as hot as it should be from my experience. I turned on the jets to let them run and when they turned off the heater indicator went away on the display panel but then after maybe 20 seconds it appeared again. Must have been the board doing a sensing of the temp and flow. I am now letting it heat without the jets running and just the cir pump. It is set to run 24hrs a day. The temp was at 99 and the set temp is at 104. Just not sure why it stopped last night at some time. Maybe the heater is flaky? The pump is fine and obviously the flow switch is fine when the pump runs. Starting to make me think the circuit board and the relays are worn out. It has been 17 years of always on. We have never turned it off except to change water or repace the flow switch and once changed out the cir pump. Your thoughts on maybe looking for a new board or a re-conditioned board. It did replace one of the relays awhile ago which was not difficult. I know relay contacts do get chewed up after awhile since with 240v there is always a small spark.
  9. It seemed to work fine after taking out the flo sw and cleaning off the contacts with some crocus cloth. Then the heater kept turning off and on about every second. I just gave it a bang with a pair pliers and it stopped cycling and stayed on. Not sure what that was about. Maybe the fix a leak had some residue in the heater coil or water passage. Just glad it seems to be working just fine now.
  10. I would love to know what happens when you turn on the power to a hot tub. Does it first start the circulation pump and then look to see if the flow sw is made? It it is does it then turn on the heater if it is low? I guess what I am looking for is a flow chart of events and checks the hot tub circuit board goes through when power is applied. This is a 2005 Sundance Capri hot tub
  11. OK today it occurred to me that the fix a leak may have gotten on the flow switch so I removed it and burnished the two contact surfaces. Put it back and turn on the spa and it started working. I have to assume the first thing the spa does is start the circulation motor and looks for the switch to make. If not then it pops a flo 2 error and turns everything off. I then kept hearing a relay turn on and off. I watched the control display and it was turning on the heater and turning it off. I did what any good tech would do and banged on the heater with a pair of channel lock pliers. It then stopped and had the heater on and stayed on. This is a 2005 Sundance Capri and when your that old a kick in the pants will work!! Question is how long does it take for a spa with 250 gallons to heat up from 85 degrees to 104?
  12. I used the fix a leak and it seems to have worked. I ran the tub jets for 6 hrs and then turned off the power and let the spa sit for two days. I started it up and got a flo 2 error. Tested the pump that runs the water through the spa and it works fine. I was afraid that fix a leak might have clogged the pump. Works fine so I ordered a new flow switch as this one did not clear the flo 2 error even with water running past it. These switches are so flaky.
  13. I figured it out for anyone who cares. You have 4 filter cycles where the spa runs the jets for 15 minutes each cycle but you can actually select a cycle and set the duration for as long as you want. So I set one for 6 hrs to run the jets on slow. This allows the fix a leak to cycle through the jets for 6 hrs and makes sure any leaks are found. After that period of time I will shut off the spa and let it sit for 2 or 3 days so the fix a leak can cure. Then the filter goes back in and the cycle duration back to 15 minutes (default) and see how it goes.
  14. What they say on the fix a leak is to run the jets for about 8 hrs to make sure it gets into the leak. Then turn off the spa and drain it. Let it sit for a couple of days to make sure the fix a leak cures. Replace the filter and run the jets another 6 to 8 hrs, clean the filter and run it again. The problem with this sundance capri is that normally the jet pump only runs about 15 mins at a time. The circulation pump runs all the time and pushes water through the heater and back to the spa without going through the filter. I think what I can do is jumper the terminals on the jet pump to force it to run for a long time. Not sure if that will have any affect on the circuit board but my electronic background tells me it shouldn't. Your thoughts?
  15. I have a 2005 capri sundance spa and want to know how to keep the jets running longer than 15 minutes. I know that the circulation pump runs 24/7 but I want to run the jets to longer than the set time to look for a leak and if possible run some leak stop chemicals while the jets are running for about 8 hrs. Any ideas how to do this?
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