TravelingSpaGuy

I would say extremely, with the Canadian dollar being at .8ish of the US dollar and knowing that the tub costs 9000+ (havent sold d1 in awhile but guessing thats the low) american that seems very reasonable because it probably sells for 11,000+ new cdn.

Dream is not in my eyes a D1, it doesnt use the same insulation or technology that actually makes D1 one of the highest end of spas in the industry. I would suggest the j350 because it costs less and in my eyes would be a higher end of spa. I dont post much anymore but I am pretty well known for my belief D1 Reflection/Bay series is probably the highest end of spa on the market.

shutting power off to spa is flipping the breaker...this is in all spas

congrats and good luck

have you guys wet tested the nordic? I am not a fan of the round tubs, I like the more bucket seats in the spas...did you look into the spas I mentioned?

well congrats, hope it works out well for you and your family

I was just told the average cost of having a hot tub rated by the CEC is between 2-4 thousand. I spent about an hour on the phone with them and honestly I was hoping the CEC would be holding spas to a higher standard then they are...they are testing the spa at room temp. Master Spas passed for god sakes....I think Sundance needs to just bite the bullet and get rated because its not as expensive as some people said before but it really isnt worth bragging about.

there is a price increase every year, 9500 would be a really good deal...give it a shot what can it hurt

Well the D1 is a spa less then 1 year old that cost 9000+, compared to the Coleman that costs 6000 and is worth 6000...the d1 jets are great actually...why dont you wet test...quality standpoint I say d1, but try both spas and see...if its your friend im sure you can try it one night right?

its a tapered covered that fits and seals fine...there is a special cover lifter for that spa, the dealer should have it. I do not believe you can get a reverse fold cover though.

I hate this entire "salesperson pulling a fast one thing" Some sales people quote BHP some CHP....is it really anything but a number? I find the Sundance is more powerful, but only if you divert all the power to one seat...if you will be using the spa with more then one person the Bullfrog will probably be better, but the Capri is actually a rather weak spa if you distribute the power evently between the seats. Not to mention for some reason Sundance has become a little too flashy, with all the new features being lighting and waterfall features not improving there below average sensor system or improving what might be the worst bottom in the industry with a stapled on abs sheet...I like Sundance for alot of things but they also need to pull there head out of you know what and get with the times...with the jetting changes Jacuzzi is bringing in I honestly am starting to believe Jacuzzi has passed Sundance by and Sundance is now going to be a nice looking spa with a good story but falling farther from the elite class they used to have. Which sucks because I would say 70% of the spas I have ever sold have been Sundances, and just because the way it fits me I would still probably buy a Cameo if I had to buy 1 spa with my own money...but I would know I could get something higher quality for less money. (Which is usually never the case)

I have never even heard of that brand...jacuzzi, hot springs, sundance, d1, bullfrog are all some of my favorite brands. I dont recommend cedar enclosures because alot of time companies use the cheapest possible materials in the enclosure to ensure a cheap enough price to sell with a spa...I would suggest a high quality synthetic gazeebo if you really want one but would suggest shopping for one of those after you owned the spa for sometime to see if its something you might like and get an idea what you might like after you have owned the spa for some time

I am not positive, you should ask your Marquis dealer...hopefully they dont rip your lips off on the upcharging

they didnt reduce it to 2, they made another model in the 2 series with 2...reason being you dont need 3 jet packs in a two person spa and that reduces the cost and should improve the water pressure....so they have a 231 and a 331. I have not sat in that tub but have enjoyed the seating of the bullfrog spas and have been a big supporter of the brand for awhile now, and I see all brands

what was the price?

lol sales people cant win, we drop our prices and you find out it was all a lie on the internet, we give you our best price and you want us to budge... there are plenty of hot tubs out there...I wouldnt want to deal with that HS dealer anyway, with that type of attitude they probably cant stay in business anyway not to mention Hot Springs could jank the line from them if they get these complaints often and they arnt selling enough tubs... hot springs needs you more then you need hot springs...I promise you will be plenty happy with a nice d1, sundance, jacuzzi or whatever else you looking at...maybe even check out Bullfrog, I have become a huge fan of that brand recently

d1's are less to run, open celled foam vs closed cell foam, small circ pump vs big...lots of differences, but sundances arnt that efficent...d1 hotsprings and I found even Jacuzzi's cost less...other brands seem to do pretty well...Bullfrog, Vita, Marquis(I still think they an overpriced antispa), and even Arctic (the most successful thermopane spa, which is like saying the winner of the special olympics)...no offense to people in the special olympics but im sure they wouldnt hold their own in the real olympics

You would probably have a similar problem with the ThermoSpa warranty...but I do hope everything goes well...I usually try to let people know as often as possible not to take advice from someone who THINKS they know more then you about a product they still don't know anything about....the best idea would have been to goto a local showroom and sit in spas...a d1 diplomat believe it or not would fit you, a Bullfrog 552 would and I believe a J-470 would too.

maybe a J-270, D1 Sojurn, 462 Bullfrog (I dont know how much this spa is) could all be options.

why?

LOL why pay more for jets they should include in the price anyway...yes you should switch...straight jets are only good for a short peroid of time....I wish Marquis could just let people enjoy a hot tub without trying to make things too safe, its like the Mom who wont let her son play sports because he will break his leg....LIVE MARQUIS LIVE

Jacuzzi and D1 are by far the best built tubs of that list...I would stay away from four winds too, I personally know the four winds owner, he also has a hot tub store in the same state the tubs are built and he even uses the tubs as a low end and doesnt even have one in his own backyard. Not saying alot since he has a Nordic

so tell us about the spa now that you have been able to play with it for a few days...jets you like/dislike, how the seating is ect

<cough> sales pitch <cough> come on, just because the Legecy is Masters new cheap end doesnt make Down East a mid end because Master is not a high end, its a lower end of a spa with alot of flash and not enough engineering or insulation.

Bengel if its definatly one of those three. But I would offer same price for new model if you dislike color of one currently on floor, the tub probably cost them the same (I am not sure if TR has hit them with price increase yet) so maybe they want to move floor model faster but usually if you ask for new one you can get it. TR>Marquis>Master