vivatee Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adwh.com Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. With 17 years experience in pool restoration, I can absolutely assure you that the existing plaster (marcite) must be sand blasted prior to a new application of plaster. Otherwise, you will be lucky to get 4-5 years out of the new job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finishguy Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. I plastered pools in Cali for 16 years and never seen one get plastered without blasting it. Now I have been in michigan for 10 years and havent seen one get sand blasted before re plastering them. I thought it was crazy but it works fine. The pools in the eastern states get much rougher than they do in the west. If your pool is rough acid washing it is fine. You must use straight acid and you must power wash the pool after, some guys neutralize it also. You must get all the hollow areas off and make sure there is no smooth areas. Never replaster without a bonding agent, NEVER. Do not let them make a home brew either. Their are 2 that is used by most, multi-coat, sgm bond coat. I would make sure that when the pool is bonded that YOU see what they are using. If its a normal size pool it only cost a couple hundred bucks for material and 1hour to roll it on. Some guys say its expensive because they are charging you way too much for it. I would not let any one plaster it that wont use bond kote of some sort. There is only 3 good reasons that a plaster job fails, No bond kote or bad bond kote application, didnt wet the pool prior to applying plaster, slow fill. I have plastered over 16,000 pools and would tell you if it was ok or not, ITS NOT!!! b.ross@att.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeman Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 the pool should be drained. the plaster should be chipped away from the tile line and all fittings only. The existing plaster should be checked for hollow spots and removed. the pool should then be acid washed which will clean the surface and roughen it up. a bondcoat should then be applied and allowed to sit for at least one day. the pool can then be replastered and should be filled with clean pottable water within 24 hours. DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO PLASTER YOUR POOL WITHOUT A BONDCOAT! and don't use the knucklehead that told you not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulfstreampool Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. As a builder here in Fla, I have never seen a pool replastered without Bond Kote by SGM. I however have never seen a pool sand blasted before hand. Etching, acid washing, power washing are all good if done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivatee Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. With 17 years experience in pool restoration, I can absolutely assure you that the existing plaster (marcite) must be sand blasted prior to a new application of plaster. Otherwise, you will be lucky to get 4-5 years out of the new job. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivatee Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. I plastered pools in Cali for 16 years and never seen one get plastered without blasting it. Now I have been in michigan for 10 years and havent seen one get sand blasted before re plastering them. I thought it was crazy but it works fine. The pools in the eastern states get much rougher than they do in the west. If your pool is rough acid washing it is fine. You must use straight acid and you must power wash the pool after, some guys neutralize it also. You must get all the hollow areas off and make sure there is no smooth areas. Never replaster without a bonding agent, NEVER. Do not let them make a home brew either. Their are 2 that is used by most, multi-coat, sgm bond coat. I would make sure that when the pool is bonded that YOU see what they are using. If its a normal size pool it only cost a couple hundred bucks for material and 1hour to roll it on. Some guys say its expensive because they are charging you way too much for it. I would not let any one plaster it that wont use bond kote of some sort. There is only 3 good reasons that a plaster job fails, No bond kote or bad bond kote application, didnt wet the pool prior to applying plaster, slow fill. I have plastered over 16,000 pools and would tell you if it was ok or not, ITS NOT!!! b.ross@att.net Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivatee Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 the pool should be drained. the plaster should be chipped away from the tile line and all fittings only. The existing plaster should be checked for hollow spots and removed. the pool should then be acid washed which will clean the surface and roughen it up. a bondcoat should then be applied and allowed to sit for at least one day. the pool can then be replastered and should be filled with clean pottable water within 24 hours. DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO PLASTER YOUR POOL WITHOUT A BONDCOAT! and don't use the knucklehead that told you not to. Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivatee Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 We are marble dusting a 40 year old concrete pool 10 years after the previous application. The last time we had it done they sandblated the pool before applying the new marble dust. This time the quotes say they will acid wash only. Also one contractor is going to use a bonding agent before applying the finsh the other contractor says it is a waste of money. The pool has never been painted and we are located in the New York City area. Any honest broker reccomendations. As a builder here in Fla, I have never seen a pool replastered without Bond Kote by SGM. I however have never seen a pool sand blasted before hand. Etching, acid washing, power washing are all good if done right. Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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