mjttd Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I was just about to buy a sundance tub when I asked the salesman to remove the side cover. What I notice about the structure is that it does not look like the pressure treated lumber you would use on a outside deck. This frame looked like normal wood framing painted with a green preservative. Many other tubs I have looked at seem to use real pressure treated wood. I am concerned about the lifespan of this sundance frame/structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris H Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I don't think you will have any issues. There are too many Sundance consumers that don't have this problem for it to be a problem. If that makes any sense. I believe the green wood you are talking about is sprayed with borate to prevent mold from forming. I believe it is similar to this. http://www.archchemicals.com/Fed/FG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatech (the unreal one) Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I was just about to buy a sundance tub when I asked the salesman to remove the side cover. What I notice about the structure is that it does not look like the pressure treated lumber you would use on a outside deck. This frame looked like normal wood framing painted with a green preservative. Many other tubs I have looked at seem to use real pressure treated wood. I am concerned about the lifespan of this sundance frame/structure. As long as the bottom has PT wood (or plastic) I wouldn't worry. If that spa is still around 15 years from now that frame will be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolguy101 Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 The wood is, in fact, pressure treated with Borates. Borates are naturally occurring mineral salts that are essential to growing plants and nutritionally important to a healthy human ***. While borates are harmless to humans, they are toxic to insects. Borates have been used to control insects—including the destructive Formosan termite, standard termites, carpenter ants, and roaches—in homes for years. Borates interfere with insects’ metabolic systems and effectively kill them. They also protect against rot and fungi. In some applications, borates even act as a fire retardant. Borate products have been used safely for more than 100 years. In fact, borates can be found throughout your own home in a vast array of common products and materials. They are safe for pets and the environment, and they require no special handling or disposal. We eat borates everyday. Borates do not build up in our bodies; our bodies handle borates just like any other nutrient, whether they’re ingested or inhaled. I think the reasons for Borates being used as opposed to chemically pressure treated wood may have something to do with the fact that Sundance builds their spas in California, and they have to adhere to different regulations in regards to the use of various chemicals. I was just about to buy a sundance tub when I asked the salesman to remove the side cover. What I notice about the structure is that it does not look like the pressure treated lumber you would use on a outside deck. This frame looked like normal wood framing painted with a green preservative. Many other tubs I have looked at seem to use real pressure treated wood. I am concerned about the lifespan of this sundance frame/structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.P. Roberts Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I just read an article about borates now being used in wooden railroad ties all across the country. It triples their lifespan. The article made borates sound like the best thing since sliced bread (or at least concrete railroad ties). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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