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  1. Post photos of the spa pack, circuit board and schematic on inside cover if there is one so we can see what system you have. @T8.
  2. A little bit confused here. The TP series of topside controls connect to the circuit board using a Molex style connector. The VL series uses a phone jack style. Post photos of the circuit board and the schematic on the inside cover of the pack. As for heating use a multi meter and test for 240V coming off the circuit board. You might have a blown heater relay and in that case you will likely only read 120V coming off the board. There may be a "Dip" Switch setting for the topside and how it operates. Again post photos of schematic and circuit board @Troy H.
  3. Do you have pump 1 (2 speed- 4 wires) and pump #2 (1 speed 3 wires) in correct position?
  4. Repair relay is cheaper. Where are you located? Remove the board and look on the back for damage Looks like a Balboa revolution pack with a small circuit board on top of a larger circuit board on top of the heater. Is it possible the middle board is touching something metal below it?
  5. There are adaptor plates available in several different sizes: https://spadepot.com/products/spa-topside-control-adapter-plate-3-3-4-inch-hq0089
  6. Some motors have one at the back end of the motor. Can't see back end of motor from your photos
  7. I am no where near being an electrician but would guess that it was not a ground fault issue causing the breaker to trip like when water and electricity come together. Replace the blue snubber where the incoming power wires are. Google... Electrical snubber Snubbers are frequently used in electrical systems with an inductive load where the sudden interruption of current flow leads to a large counter-electromotive force: a rise in voltage across the current switching device that opposes the change in current, in accordance with Faraday's law. @mountainguy See this post... https://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.php?/topic/52358-2015-jacuzzi-j365-circuit-board-question/
  8. Sorry you are correct... Reading is hard...lol Turn it off/on set temp up to 104 and set for ec and wait an hour. See if it shuts off.
  9. You were able to set time of day and time of filtration cycles on a 3 button Balboa topside? Most spas the time of filtration start time is set when you turn the breaker on. If you turn the power on at 5pm then it will run 5am/pm for your set 1-2 hour duration. Post photos of the topside so we can see what you have.
  10. I am pro circ pump however if a dealer is adding $$ into the price as an "Upgrade" then I have questions
  11. Has it ever run as a 240V or did you just make the conversion from 120V? Disconnect the heater from the board J9 at test for power off the board red to black... do you get 240V... Wait until heat indicator light is solid on the topside and not flickering https://peoplelikeclearwater.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/CONTROL-SYSTEM-OVERVIEW-240V.pdf
  12. Lots of fudge going on with pump hp ratings To know the "true" HP ratings you need to know the AMP draw in high speed... 2hp 8 amp, 3hp 10 amp, 4 HP 12 amp, 5 HP 16 Amp. Honestly I have had over 100 + tubs go through my backyard over the years and tried them all but never a Bullfrog.. odd. Have worked on a bunch but never tried one. To me the "jet pack" seating looks very upright and rigid almost like sitting back against a sheet of plywood but others might have more input on that. Also the space behind the jet pack looks like a good place for nasties to build up unseen. Not sure if they fixed the issue with the jet pack clips breaking yet or not. JMO Wiring for the tub is routed through channels molded into the bottom base pan so plan ahead. Of the manufacturers you have mentioned the Sundance would be my choice but that would be dependent on the dealer reputation and service fees. FYI Sundance is Jacuzzi. Same factory. Repair costs post warranty will be slightly higher than most as well.
  13. Schematic on inside cover of pack? Also back the camera out so we can see the entire board and wiring Do you have a multi meter and know how to use it? In the top photo the bottom sensor looks crooked. Is it on properly?
  14. Not unbiased Commission sales teams. Their job is to get as much money out of you as they can. The more they get the more they make. 2 customers can buy tubs 20 mins apart and one might pay 2K more because they didn't have a negotiation plan before going in. Of you are buying in this environment I tell folks to never sign on the first day in. They will try and find your price breaking point and hold there when they think you will buy that day. Walk away. Leave your contact info and a good sales person will contact you in a day or 2 with a better price and or package asking how they can earn your business. Go home think about it. If it still feels right the next day and you have done your homework you will feel much better about the purchase going forward. In larger stores the day you meet the sale person and they are your best friend is likely the last time you ever deal with them. From that day or you are likely dealing with Customer Service or a 3rd party service provider. Set a budget and stay within it regardless of how good of a "deal" it is. Know all your "other" costs... Electrical, Base pad... before you set budget and shop. Most dealers will include the delivery, step, cover lifter and start up chemicals. All things you will need and cost money. They will try to play this into the sales pitch with over inflated prices to make you feel you are getting a better deal. "Today Only"... "Scratch and dent" "last one" are all pressure sales tactics. If they offer you a deal today it will be there tomorrow. Research the Dealer as much as you do Price, Manufacturer and model of spa. Do they have in house service or do they use a 3rd party service provider. Research the Manufacturer. Sometimes you have to dig deep to get the real story. Warranty.. Know what the warranty is and covers and for how long. Most Warranties are pro rated and by the second year you are paying 50% of parts and labour. Some components might only be covered for the first year. Lights, stereos, ozone... Most manufacturers will cover the dealer for parts and time on site based on a preset amount but manufacturers don't cover travel time to and from your location so most dealers will charge a "Trip Fee" that can run as high as $200+ per visit. Make sure you know before you buy because they likely won't tell you unless you ask. Where are you located?
  15. Unzip the skin and place a square of Gorilla tape on the inside and stick the vinyl to the tape. or you could try a vinyl repair kit How to Youtube videos out there
  16. First remove the filters and reset the main power to see if you have a dirty filter flow issue preventing the heater from engaging. Panel is below the topside control
  17. Photos will help. Are you asking how to remove them? Here is the replacement part: https://spacare.com/Sundance-Jacuzzi-Speaker-Assembly-Audio-6560-837_p_98463.html
  18. If the screw holding the incoming power wires are not tight they can arc. The screw has to compress the copper strand and can loosen over time if it wasn't cranked down on install. Is one possibility. Any recent power outs/surge?
  19. I would be pulling the board and having a look on the back for damage. Only takes a few minutes to remove. Cleaning and Re-doing any damaged wires. Can't really see what's going on on the left side where the incoming power is. Looking at where the wires that burnt connect I can see some pitting and corrosion. Test the blue snubber for continuity and make sure it was not also damaged. J8 is sending power to the heater relays. Power goes into the relay above J8 and then comes out to the heater connections next to J8 (J10 I think). Check the back of the board, make new wires, Inspect and clean up everything else. Test the snubber and then see what happens. Would also remove the back cover of the pump motor and check to see if the water dripping has corroded any wires going to the pump. Post pics so we can see the entire board and also the schematic on the inside cover
  20. Where are you located? What is the budget? New or used? Are you willing to spend the money on electrical for 240V operation (recommend)? How much space do you have for it. Smaller 2-3 person spas can be hard to find used and new they cost close to what a "regular" 5-6 person spa so most will go with a 5-6 person and why used are hard to find. If buying used here are the rules... Never buy a spa you don't see running and up to temp.. and "Free" spas are NEVER Free
  21. You will need to know year of manufacturer of your spa. Google... 2011 Sundance Spas, Inc. Service Parts Catalog (PDF file so I can't post it) page 147 Might be this one: https://www.myspapartsstore.com/parts/sundance-spa-parts/sundance-spa-jets/sundance-spa-jet-faces-and-inserts/sundance-spa-heat-return-fitting-insert-gray
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