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Coleman (Maax) 461 OHH error.


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We had a power surge last night and when I went to use my hot tub (about a 2007 Coleman (Maax) 461 with Balboa electronics, it read “STU” (motor stuck?).  As usual, first troubleshooting step - power off and power on. That replaced the message with “HOT” (something overheated?). Everything was nice and cool, so I powered it off, moved A1 up to test mode, powered it on and got “OHH” (Overheat?) , which is where it now sits. Kind of strange as it happened in the middle of the night with the tub in standby on a 40° F night. I just started researching it, but figured I’d reach out and see if anybody has the “magic bullet” (not the food processor). I took a pic of the Balboa circuit board if that helps. Thanks, in advance, to anybody that can get me a couple more nice nights in the tub, before the brutal Texas summer rolls in.

All thoughts and opinions welcome!

Thanks!

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Test the 2 green buss fuses that say SC25 or SC 30 on them. Does the heating/filtering related pump run in low or the circ pump if it has one? Test the incoming power and make sure you have 240V red to black and did not lose a leg in the gfci when it took the hit.

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The good news - the buss fuses measured ok.

the Bad news - now the 50 Amp GFI trips whenever I try to turn on the power. Something must be shorting out. 

I think I’m in for a long ride. 

any and all ideas welcome. 

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Most common trip cause is the heater element. Disconnect the heater from the board and see if it holds. If it still trips disconnect each component one at a time until it holds (pumps, Ozone). Post pics of the circuit board and the schematic on the inside cover so we can see what you have and how it is wired

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On 4/23/2024 at 6:26 AM, CanadianSpaTech said:

Test the 2 green buss fuses that say SC25 or SC 30 on them. Does the heating/filtering related pump run in low or the circ pump if it has one? Test the incoming power and make sure you have 240V red to black and did not lose a leg in the gfci when it took the hit.

 

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On 4/25/2024 at 6:46 PM, CanadianSpaTech said:

Most common trip cause is the heater element. Disconnect the heater from the board and see if it holds. If it still trips disconnect each component one at a time until it holds (pumps, Ozone). Post pics of the circuit board and the schematic on the inside cover so we can see what you have and how it is wired

You are correct. It was the heater. GFI did not trip once disconnected. 
 

Unfortunately, it is still. Stuck with the OHH error. It turns on the pump, tries to prime, and then shuts off. The spa pack is a Balboa 54301

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Most of Balboa documents are direct to PDF so can't post links here. Research balboa persistent memory reset and also TEST mode. Try and do a reset. Always remove filters when testing for flow issues. Remove them from the equation. Might want to test the sensors or try a new sensor set if all else fails.

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Saw the instincts for persistent memory and test mode. Right now, the hearer appears to be the culprit for tripping the GFCI. Now disconnected just OHH and the pump will try to prme

i try the test mode and persistent men dip swithes and see if that goes anywhere. 
 

looks like I’ll need a new heater, and possibly a new logic board. Since Balboa does not make  54301 anymore, I may have to go for a new spa pack and topside controller (ugh),

 

thanks for your replies!

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The heater just buy an element and not the entire heater tube assembly. I have dealt with many power surges in the past and they can do a lot of damage to spa packs and you have to go through each step along the way. I have the advantage of having parts available to check each step. I would order and install a new heater element as you know it's damaged and tripping the breaker. Next I am trying a memory rest. If that fails then I am on to sensors. Testing or replacing. If all that fails a new spa pack. Or go straight to the pack replacement and get it all in one.

54301 replacement. See notes here: https://www.hottuboutpost.com/coleman-460-spa-pack-103735-balboa-powerworks-el2000/

"Existing pack may say 54301-01 on the top of the Balboa EL2000 Series control box."

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Spa Board Doctor - repairable how? Feel free to PM me at Alan @oddpost.com

my friend in Canada - the spa is 18 years old, so replacing the “engine” is not a surprise., ill try the persistent mem switch and test mode, but my gut says it’s fried. 
 

seems like the Spapack that you mention in your link and the Balboa Bp7 look like good candidates. They might even be the same, as balboa seems a bit cagey. 
 

a few years ago, I’d have no problem fixing it myself, but age is creeping up on me. Fortunately, I have some relatively honest spa techs around. 
 

thanks for your replies. Gives me more faith in the internet 

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Ended up getting the EL2000 as per the link that was sent. Looks like a direct replacement and it will accept the existing top side controller. The BP7 looks like it would have worked as well, but would have had to change out the topside controller (which was included), but I decided to just go with the simplest replacement. My thanks to all that replied. 

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