spanorth Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I have found that my Ozone unit is not working. My dealer is of no help. Unfortunately, the moron who I usually have to talk to on the phone can even look up parts and tell if they are in stock or not. I assume this is a Balboa unit like this one found here http://www.spaguts.com/Products/balboa-uv-ozonator-kit-with-amp-cord-52468-01-59024-602.aspx I'm willing to spend $150 if it's the proper replacement and it will work. However, I wonder if there is a better option for a replacement. I'm not too worried about the plug/connector being different, as I can always reuse the old one. Here's a picture of mine. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa_Guru Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 You need Marquis part number 20171, the universal ozone replacement kit. Should be about $195.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanorth Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'll call the dealer on Monday and find out what they'll charge for it, in the mean time, by googling that part humber I found it here http://thespaworks.com/parts/marquis-spa-parts/marquis-spa-ozone/marquis-spa-ozonator-amp-plug-120v230v-convertible for $212. However, this one sure looks like the exact same thing for half that. http://www.creativeleisureproducts.com/servlet/the-182/ACC,Applied-Computer-Controls,ePACK,spa-control,hot/Detail Am I missing something between these two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa_Guru Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pretty much the same thing, pay attention when hooking up the wires to the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibercoug Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I have been using the Del APG unit for some time now and it has been working perfectly. I had problems with other ozone generators interfering with my control board and the APG unit does not do that. I would recommend it. Also Del's customer service has been fantastic. You can check out my other posts and see what I went through and how Del would not give up until I was happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanorth Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Great. I was starting to think about looking at other units too. Glad to hear this one is working well for you. I'll be ordering it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanorth Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 My local Marquis dealer supplies the JED 103 ozone generator as a replacement. Same price at ~$100. Any thoughts on this unit vs. DEL APG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa_Guru Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Whatever you get, make certain it comes with the correct plug, most dealers won't take electrical items back, even if it hasn't been installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanorth Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I ended up with the JED 103 ozone generator, just because my dealer had them in stock, they were $107 and they had been installing them as replacements regularly on the Marquis tubs. Install took about 15 minutes and I'm in business. I'll be curious to see how it effects my chemical balance and use. Although, I'll probably not be able to tell very much, since I don't have a solid handle on the whole chemical thing yet. Anyway, I figure for $100 it can't hurt and if it means less chemical in the tub, that will work for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa_Guru Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 All ozone does is reduce the needed level of chlorine or bromine you are using, it does not affect PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreservedSwine Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 All ozone does is reduce the needed level of chlorine or bromine you are using, it does not affect PH It also reduces that actual level of chlorine and bromine, so you may need to add the same amount as before to keep a lower ppm. Mileage varies on use. It appears this spa doesn't use a 24/7 circ pump? If not, I wonder if you'll even notice whether it's equipped with an ozone generator? I think the greatest benefit of an ozonator is in oxidizing chloromines, which in turn will reduce the frequency of shocking. But that's just my opinion. I don't put any faith in the claims of "it will lower chlorine levels needed " since there isn't a shred of data to qualify that statement (in a spa) Ozone is not part of any EPA approved spa sanitizer program. As far as I know, there isn't a single peer reviewed study of the benefits of ozone use in a spa. At the point, afer being in the wild since the 1980's, there isn't anything concrete to support the use of ozone in a spa, other than marketing brochures, and the fact that ozone is used to purify drinking water in a closed environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettm61 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Spanorth - I am having the same issue, can you give me an update on how your replacement went? Did the JED 103 work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem geek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 We've seen plenty of reports on this and other forums that ozone is most beneficial when the bather load is higher. In a chlorine spa with a decent ozonator where the spa is used every day or two, the chlorine usage (amount added after a soak) can be cut in half or less since ozone oxidizes much of the bather waste. However, if the spa is only used once or twice a week or only on weekends, then the chlorine usage can go up by double or more. This is because ozone reacts with chlorine (to form chloride and chlorate). In a bromine spa with a bromide bank, an ozonator can create more bromine from the bromide so works OK even when the spa is not in use. Dialing in the proper levels though is hard unless one can adjust the ozonator on-time (say by adjusting the circulation pump on-time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanorth Posted May 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Yes, it's been working just fine as far as I can tell. I don't have much reference from before it was replacd, so I can't say how much difference it makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettm61 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have an 2004 Marquis Destiny - the original Ozone looks the same as yours with a standard J&J plug. When I go to place the order it asks for either 140v or 230v.. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytw Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 How do you know if a CD ozone generator is working i.e. making ozone ? I do not think that they 'light up' like the UV ones, or do they ? Thanks, andytw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteyboy Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 My take on ozone...if you care. It's only good on 24 hour circulation systems. I think it does help keep pH balanced to an extent. It does eat chlorine and bromine. It does kill bacteria but can't keep up with any bather load at all by itself. Need MPS, Silver Ion and weekly chlorine. My way to tell if it's working is to lift the cover and smell for it. A fresh rain smell mixed with a burnt wire smell (my best analogy). I love it because I can let my spa go a while without doing anything and the water is still in good shape. 1991 HotSpring Classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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