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  1. Hi there, I hope that you are all well. Hot tub newbie here! We had our hot tub delivered last week We were given instructions to fill the tub and, once it reached 26 degrees or over, put 4-6 tablespoons of bromine into the water. We were then advised to check the levels using strips and to add a capful of PH reducer or TA enhancer as necessary. The strips seemed far from accurate, but we got to a level where the colours seemed to match. However, after only being in the hot tub twice, we have all come out in a rash. Not to put too fine a point on it, I am covered in spots! We asked our hot tub supplier for help and they said that we were given bad advice on almost all fronts and that we needed only a couple of level teaspoons of bromine. Having had such a bad experience, we are keen to start again and get things completely safe We have replaced the water and are desperately trying to get those strip colours to match. However, the PH always seems too high. Sorry to waffle on... we are just at our wits end! Thank you for your time... I really appreciate your help!
  2. Hi; This is the 3rd season we have had our spa (it came with the house when we moved in) and up until this year I have not had any problems at all. However, over the past month I have developed a really itch allergic reaction to something in the water - mostly on my chest, upper back, torso and a few spots on my legs. My Dr. told me to take a shower after the spa and use plenty of soap but it's not really helping much. We use the spa most days but I'm at the point of wondering if my spa days are over . For sanitation we have a UV unit which we replaced a couple of years ago and we used bromine pucks which are in a floating dispenser in the spa when we are not using it. We check the pH and the bromine level each day and adjust the flow through the bromine dispenser as necessary to keep the bromine level where it should be. Are there alternatives to Bromine that I should consider or could it be something else Any feedback at all would be great. Thanks Paul
  3. The bromine tablets I've loaded into the floating dispenser in my hot tub keep caking up together, forming a solid mass that is very difficult to break up and remove. What's the best way to clean out my floating dispenser and how can I keep this from happening again? Thanks!
  4. Hi all. I just changed the water in my Tropic Seas spa (375 gallon, 6 seater) and when I turn the ozonator on, the water foams up. I am using a Nature2 spa stick and bromine along with Cense. I havent always had this foaming issue. I cleaned the spa after draining it. Filled it as I always have, test strips indicate everything in the recommended ranges. Any idea on this? Would love to be able to use the ozonator without this foam. I know some bubbles are expected because its air blowing through the water, but it foams up. Once the ozonator is off, it does disappear relatively quickly. Any help or thoughts would be helpful. Thanks!
  5. Turns out I'm allergic to some aspect of my new cedar tub. Since it will take several months, possibly over a year to see an immunologist and determine the exact allergen, (statistically most likely to be bromine from what I have found online) we are changing from bromine to chlorine, (knowing it could eat away at the wood. If it's the correct allergen, can get a liner at that point). What I would like to know is if anyone has any educated suggestions on the best way to extract any bromine that has leached into the wood. As of now, I have drained the tub, spent at least an hour spraying the walls and floor with a hose, and refilled. We will leave it to sit for a few days with no chemicals, though the ionizer is turned on. Then I will do that same again, at least once, maybe more. For some background, while experimenting earlier to try to figure out the source of the allergy, we did empty, refill and use the next day with no chemicals once heated to see if I would react to that and I did. (I get full body rash. No one else who has used the tub has ever gotten a rash other other adverse reaction). Could be an allergy to cedar though, or something else, who knows, but gotta try something cause that thing is awesome!
  6. Hi All, I'm shopping for sodium bromide and stumbled across "ClearView Yellow Aid" and "SeaKlear Yellow Klear," both of which are for treating yellow/mustard algae, but both of which are 99% sodium bromide. In both cases, you get twice as much (2 lb) for the same price as you do if you purchase "Sodium Bromide," marketed as a spa chemical. Does anyone have any experience with either of these products or something like them? Is there any reason they shouldn't be used to create a bromide bank in my spa? I am tempted to buy it because it's a better deal and it appears that I'm getting the same thing.
  7. I am having an issue and I'm hoping some water chemistry experts can chime in..., that at first I thought might have been white mold (even though it was a new spa), but tested and wasn't... resigned to it being hard water calcium flakes because I have been having white flakes floating all over the water that persists after water changes and a flush. But, after a recent water change I discovered that it isn't hard water, but in fact sealant used around the jets housing, lights, filter compartment, etc. that is crumbling. My spa also trips the breaker daily and i think this sealant, which is all in the plumbing, is causing the trips. I made a video so you can see what I'm talking about... The dealer is claiming chemical abuse of bromine and will not honor the warranty. My water chemistry is well maintained and always within range... my sanitizer is never too high and I've never done a super chlorination, yet they recommend one for this issue. Dealers I have spoken with have never seen the sealant come off like this and completely clog the plumbing as mine has. I'm wondering if someone can tell me if this is possible and how much bromine would really have to be used to cause something like this as they are saying it's a bromine issue. Even after shock, my levels only go up to around 10 at the highest then come back down to 3-4. I don't know what sealant they are using that a sanitizer at that level can destroy. Plus, they are also asking me to have the sealant (they are calling "white powder") tested and give them a chemical analysis of it. Crazy! Here's the video:
  8. We are new to hot tubbing. We recently switched from a chlorine frog system to a bromine system. I have tested it twice and it is regestering 0 on my test stick. I moved it up to a 6 and it’s still 0. Any advice would be helpful! It’s also full of suds.
  9. First post on this forum, so let me just briefly say that I'm really grateful that this exists. You guys are awesome! It was a real struggle to find reliable information before finding this forum. Now, as I'm starting out, I made a rookie mistake. I currently use bromine in my hot tub, and would like to keep it that way. However, I bought the test kit Taylor k-2006, which is meant for chlorine. My main question: do I really need to buy another test kit for Bromine now? If you can help, I'd like to understand the difference between the FAS-DPD test for chlorine and for bromine. Taylor names the pure FAS-DPD tests K-1515-A,C for chlorine and K-1517-A,C for bromine. Different names; does that mean they are different chemicals? If I use my current chlorine test with the water containing bromine, what is it measuring? Does it really measure only the chlorine (free and combined) in the water? Or does it measure a combination of bromine and chlorine? The readings I get certainly seem high for just purely chlorine. Many thanks!
  10. I have a 6 month old Artesian Nevis spa which appears to have ozone and UV sanitizers installed since the lights for those are illuminated on the panel and there are little bubbles coming out from the footwell like the service tech at the dealer said there would be. I also have a Microsilk system which produces the tiny oxygen bubbles. When I got it, we filled according to instructions using a dichlor system. No issues and kept the chlorine pretty minimal, adding more after each use, since we always showered first and went in au natural. I had to go out of town for 3 months, so turned the heat down to 50 (although ambient temp was high enough to probably keep it at 65 at least) and switched to bromine floater with the nature 2 stick, which seemed to keep things nice the whole time. Drained and cleaned it, soaked the filters (which still looked brand new) in vinegar and water overnight, refilled and decided to try the Spa Frog system. I used the start up packet which came with the spa frog kit (PH and Alk and hardness all good) and dialed the bromine to where it was suggested. The next day, no bromine reading, so I figured I would stick the floater with bromine tabs in the tub to help it out since I had read about others needing to do this. Left it for a couple of hours with the floater open about an inch and took a soak. I don't remember testing the water before I got in, so i'm guessing I didn't! After soaking for 20 minutes (my max time) I did my usual routine of emptying my bladder and showering. Two things happened. My eyes burned like crazy in the shower once water hit them. I thought maybe I had gotten shampoo in them, but this was really painful and took ages to wash out with water and soothing eye drops. A few minutes later, my whole urinary tract was irritated and painful, radiating to my lower back. Saw the doctor since I was worried about a possible UTI, but nope. Just irritation and inflammation. So I am wondering what it is that triggered this. I don't seem to have a bacteria problem since the bromine levels seem to stay up well over two days without the floater in the tub and no use. I had used a bromine floater system in my last hot tub with no problems. Could it have been the start up packet chemicals that came with the Spa Frog? I didn't add any MPS until after I had gotten in that first time, so that wasn't it. Do people have a reaction to the silver in the frog system sometimes? I wear silver jewelry with no problems. Or was it likely that the bromine level was just too high after two hours of the floater plus the frog? I did leave the floaters in the tub with me for about 10 minutes, since they stayed in their own corner, but I know i should have probably taken them out. I was thinking about flushing, draining and refilling the tub and switching back to dichlor, but thought I would get some feedback before going through all that in case it's just chemicals that needed to burn off a bit. Thoughts?? Thanks! I am dying to get back in the spa but afraid to until I have some answers and a decision.
  11. Hello - I have a 450gal tub that is 2 months old and I have a constant recurring issue. I filled the tub, added sodium bromide and shocked with MPS...I also have a bromine floater that is in the tub that I have set to "all the way open". I find it impossible to maintain a bromine readout from day to day. If I add dichlor I get a nice readout, but within 18 hours the readout goes to 0. Last night, I shocked w/MPS to try and reactivate the bromine. I will run a test strip tonight to see if there is anything, but the only thing I noticed this morning is that it made my water cloudy... Please help! UPDATE: Last night I was actually able to get a readout of bromine in my spa, which means something is finally working. The next question I have would be how do I maintain this level of bromine? Just keep shocking with MPS weekly, or is something else required more than that?
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  13. Hello, i noticed that the couple times I haven't used my hot tub for a week or more, the bromine levels build up and go from 3ish to 7-8...and that's without shocking or doing anything. I use bromine tablet and a dispenser. it is then hard to bring the levels down, and I usually end up removing the dispenser completely for a while. Is that normal? I always read that you need to shock at least once a week even when not using the tub, but wouldn't that bring the levels up to the roof? Am i missing something? PH was a bit high and TA a bit low, so I adjusted that.
  14. Have had new tub for about a week. Day we got it, filled up, tested neg for metals so proceeded to use non chlorine shock after adjusting ph. Used a floating bromine dispenser, After a few days, still no bromine registered at testing. Left for vacation. Rash appeared on 3 of us (looks like mosquito bites, assuming pseudomonas from lack of bromine). Not too concerned with that and sure it will go away soon. came home to a slightly green translucent tub, barely registering bromine. Spa place recommended hyperchlorinating using granular chlorine. This definitely helped some with the green color, but we ultimately chose to drain, scrub and refill. After filling today, I adjusted ph, which is about 7.6-7.8, and added maintenance chlorine just to keep the water sanitized and not risk pseudomonas infectioN. I plan to get sodium bromide tomorrow to create a bank, then use the bromide floater. Am I missing anything? Is it safe to use today since we have added chlorine to sanitize?
  15. Hello, we've had our new caldera salina spa for about 3 weeks now, with the in line spa frog bromine system. We cannot keep a good level of bromine in the water, no matter what we do! the highest we've seen it was at 2ppm and that was after shocking with an oxidizing shock treatment. Stayed up for a day and went back down to zero... Non chlorine shock doesn't seem to help at all, but we use it after every use. I don't use the chlorine shock as often, as I heard it is harsher on the tub and shouldn't be used on a regular basis. Would you say it's a biofilm problem from the wet testing done at the manufacture? We're planning on flushing and draining if it doesn't get better...I contacted Caldera who told me it was unlikely, but that we could super-chlorine the spa...haven't looked into that yet Also, i find it very hard to get good results from the test strips. we got the AquaCheck digital thing, but the results are always very different than the ones at Leslie's pool supplies...I tend to trust them more than the machine. Should I? Thanks!!
  16. Hello, I have a Bullfrog X6R 291 gallon hot tub. I put 1.5 ounces of Leisure Time Sodium Bromide as an initial shock when filling. Once a week I add three Leisure Time chlorine-free Renew Tabs. I have a floating dispenser in which I use Leisure Time Brom Tabs (usually just one at a time, because otherwise the bromine level gets extremely high). I'm using Leisure Time bromine test strips. Normally, the above recipe keeps the bromine levels around the right range. However, in the past week the bromine level has plummeted. Adding an additional Brom Tab has brought it up just a little bit but not very far, and it fell back down again to almost nothing. What am I doing wrong?
  17. Hi, we have a bromine spa at home that is used about 30 minutes per week, which we have had for about 10 years. We change the water every 5-6 months as the spa is used so infrequently. We use the floating method with Bromine tabs (1 every 10 days approx), monthly about 20 grams of sodium bicarbonate and this seems to be about all we require to keep the water balanced and stable. Occasionally (every couple of months) I shock the water with liquid chlorine (12.5% strength). I do have the TFT100 test kit that I occasionally (few times a year) use to double check the readings, check TA or if something seems a bit off and maybe once a year (or if any doubt) i go the the pool shop and they have a proper machine to do more accurate readings, thankfully the readings have been the same so far as what my weekly testing says. Weekly I would do the quick test with Taylors or equivalent OTO and Phenol Red , in Australia this or an equivalent product can not longer be purchased or is recommended for use but I can get something similar via eBay from Hong Kong. Unfortunately I have just run out and need to get some more. I like this method as its quick and easy and has always seemed pretty accurate when I have done comparative test with another method. My questions is, is this still the simplest, reasonably priced/accurate method to use in our situation for weekly testing or should we consider something else or are we missing something that we should be doing? The ebay product is: OTO and Phenol Red Or something like this for Ph and something else for Cl PH only test Or I noticed these that look good and easy but not sure how they compare to our current method for accuracy: Electronic Ph and Cl test Or slightly more expensive and could just be to good to be true Another Electronic test
  18. We will be draining our spa soon since our TSD levels are already very high. We want to start over using the 3 steps bromine method and really hope it will work better for us. My question is that I currently have both MPS and chlorine shock. I know I can also use bleach, but since I have those bottles, I want to use them. When should I use the chlorine shock over the MPS one? Thank you!!
  19. I have a spa and recently purchased the Taylor Test Kit K-2006C mainly because I like the larger 2oz bottles. I'm using Bromine tablets. Will this test kit work? The included book says the bromine and chlorine test are the same. It has a different method of testing bromine levels than my old kit. which uses Taylor Reagent 1 and 2. Thanks, Scott
  20. Hi everyone! We've had our new caldera Salina tub for a couple days now and have yet to use it! Im completely overwhelmed and keep getting contradicting information ! The spa came with the in-line spa frog chlorine system, but we decided to buy a bromine capsule instead of the chlorine one. We installed it yesterday following the instructions, and after putting a start-up shock treatment. 24 hours later, there was still 0 bromine in the water...took a sample to a pool supplies shop which confirmed our result. They recommended that we shock again, which we did , but still no level of bromine can be detected. This afternoon, I noticed a brown ring around the waterline and there seem to be a film on top of the water. Again, we haven't use the spa at all yet, I want to have the water balanced before we do. Any idea? I honestly don't know what to do
  21. Hi everyone! We've had our new caldera Salina tub for a couple days now and have yet to use it! Im completely overwhelmed and keep getting contradicting information ! The spa came with the in-line spa frog chlorine system, but we decided to buy a bromine capsule instead of the chlorine one. We installed it yesterday following the instructions, and after putting a start-up shock treatment. 24 hours later, there was still 0 bromine in the water...took a sample to a pool supplies shop which confirmed our result. They recommended that we shock again, which we did , but still no level of bromine can be detected. This afternoon, I noticed a brown ring around the waterline and there seem to be a film on top of the water. Again, we haven't use the spa at all yet, I want to have the water balanced before we do. Any idea? I honestly don't know what to do
  22. Hello, I'm a fairly new hot-tub owner, and have found tons of valuable resources on this forum. Now that I have a slightly complicated question, this was quickly my first-choice to seek guidance My tub is 425 gallons (Alps Spas Q-90), last cleaned and refilled on 1/22/17 (sodium bromide + floater + MPS), consistently tested with a Taylor K-2106 kit, and set to 102F. Problem is my measurements today have me really scratching my head. TA dropped, and my CH plummeted. I've been busy so the tub's only seeing 1 or 2 bather-hours a week lately. Here's the last few measurement entries in my logbook: 2/11/17: pH=7.3, TA=120, CH=100, SI=-0.3, TB=0.5 2/12/17: pH=7.6, TA=130, CH=100, SI=0.1, TB=5 2/16/17: pH=7.6, TA=130, CH=90, SI=0.1, TB=4.5 2/20/17: pH=7.4, TA=90, CH=40, SI=-0.7, TB=5 Should I be worried that CH and TA tanked? I know bromine is acidic, which can lower pH and TA over time, but I've never seen my calcium dive like that. Also, I did add Leisure Time "pH Balance" during this last refill, which says "Note: due to the unique buffering capacity of Leisure Time pH Balance, it is not necessary to adjust the calcium hardness level in your spa". Was that a mistake? Could it be interfering somehow? Thanks in advance!
  23. I've had a 450 gallon spa for about a year. Initially I had a ton of issues getting the water balanced, so I did the sanitization routine with Ahhhh Some and the spa has been working great. I also switched from the Spa Frog system to a Bromine floater. Currently my spa seems to be well balanced. Ph at 7.6 or 7.7 typically. Alkalinity is 120. CH 180. Bromine sits between 3 and 4ish depending on the day and when I test. I use the ColorQ system for water testing (no test strips here SON!). When I first open the cover to use the spa there is a sanitizer smell and a slight smell on my skin after use. The water is perfectly clear and the chemistry seems well balanced. Not sure whether the smell is over sanitizer or something else. I've been throwing MPS in the spa after each use - 2-3 tablespoons (1/2 to 3/4 of a dixie cup). I use the spa 3 to 4 times a week. So should I be dosing it after each use? What's the smell? THANKS!!!
  24. I've been using the Bromine method for about a year now on a brand new tub. The bromine has been great at keeping the water crystal clear at all times. But for the last 6 months or so, I have been battling a growing blackish-greenish mold problem. It started on the cover, but then spread to the edges of the control knobs and under the filter cover, to virtually all the inside exposed edges of the tub. But the water is still clear. I then used a strong mix of chlorine and water and decontaminated all the surfaces. The mold quickly turned light brown and easily washed away with a pressure washer with no trace. All was well for a few weeks, at which point the spots started coming back on the cover, followed by the control knobs. So again I repeated the cleaning procedure, and again it looks clear for about 2 weeks at which point it slowly starts coming back. This is not a battle I want to try and maintain indefinitely... Is a few steady ppm of bromine insufficient to keep enough sanitizer up on the exposed tub areas? Should I switch to a chlorine method, assuming chlorine evaporates faster and will cost more of the inside surfaces and sanitize them more thoroughly on an ongoing basis? I currently only use the tub every few weeks. I check the levels weekly, swapping in additional bromine tabs, adjusting pH (it's usually a little low each week), and dump on MPS shock (weekly even when I don't use it, and after every use when I do). Spa is 400 gallons and has a UV system (clear ray), but no ozone and no mineral system. I am honestly at my wit's end with this issue, so any help or insight from the experts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
  25. Hotsprings instructs users to put all chemicals only into the filter compartment. We are using bromine granules, and coincidentally?? the only time my water remained clear is after I put the bromine in the main tub area rather than filer area. Is this a coincidence? Background I have a new hotsprings Pulse spa and the water was cloudy after several days. I discovered the installer put the ozonator check valve in backwards. After many attempts with dealer to fix the chemistry, we finally drained and refilled tub, Then followed all instructions and water became cloudy after a few days, I proceeded to put in bromine 2.5 tablespoons for 380 gal tub. After 16 hours no free bromine detected. Ph 7.2 and alkalinity 122 water still cloudy Next I put in 4 tablespoons (super shock) but this time directly into tub not thru filter area (I also changed filter) Note "older" filter is only 1 month old and has been rinsed every week. Left cover off for 6 hours. Now finally water is clear. What was the problem?? Filter, putting bromine into filter area, check valve? other??
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