jtravel Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Here is a link to the database of spas that Meet energy usage requirements and approved for sale in California. I found it useful in checking R-value of insulation and operating costs of the Spas listed. http://www.energy.ca.gov/appliances/databa.../Pool_Products/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Spa Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Unfortunately the accuracy leaves something to be desired. The "numbers" are all self reported by the manufacturers. How can a spa that's full foamed be reported as R-6, while a spa with minimum insulation be listed as R-20?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtravel Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Unfortunately the accuracy leaves something to be desired. The "numbers" are all self reported by the manufacturers. How can a spa that's full foamed be reported as R-6, while a spa with minimum insulation be listed as R-20?????? They are suppose to be Lab tested and certified to comply with California certification requirements. You have a specific example where you feel the information is wrong? I will be glad to forward it to the California Energy commision for comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottublady Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Unfortunately the accuracy leaves something to be desired. The "numbers" are all self reported by the manufacturers. How can a spa that's full foamed be reported as R-6, while a spa with minimum insulation be listed as R-20?????? They are suppose to be Lab tested and certified to comply with California certification requirements. You have a specific example where you feel the information is wrong? I will be glad to forward it to the California Energy commision for comment. I don't understand how to read that chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatech (the unreal one) Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Unfortunately the accuracy leaves something to be desired. The "numbers" are all self reported by the manufacturers. How can a spa that's full foamed be reported as R-6, while a spa with minimum insulation be listed as R-20?????? They are suppose to be Lab tested and certified to comply with California certification requirements. You have a specific example where you feel the information is wrong? I will be glad to forward it to the California Energy commision for comment. Nope, those are self reported numbers and those R values are from who knows where. Check out how D1 has spa R values of 6 for all their spas (not counting swim spas), Master has 12.8, Clearwater has 20 and Artesian has 22. Those R values are all over the board yet they all report similar standby watts. Hmmm, what does that tell you? Hopefully this is a first step toward a true thrid party tested system but right now its just each company stating their values and no independent checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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