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After the flow switch. Most spas have ozone jet installed in the shell already. look around in the footwell for a small jet or jets. In my experience, most spas do NOT have an ozone jet. Spas with circ pumps use mazzei injector, just as original poster is using. spas without a Circ pump do have a ozone jet. exactly.

After the flow switch. Most spas have ozone jet installed in the shell already. look around in the footwell for a small jet or jets. In my experience, most spas do NOT have an ozone jet. Spas with circ pumps use mazzei injector, just as original poster is using.

YES it is still wrapped up in the warehouse.... OK - I am convinced that I am getting a good deal I poked around the forum and it looks like people have paid $9-11K and some paid that ~3 years ago I was caught off guard - as we were talking about what he had in 2010 models -- he just said I have 2 of these, pointing to a Vista, that are new 09's in the warehouse for $8K - and would not budge on price. Then he said the cover lifter was an additional $400--- that seemed pricey for a lifter and I had not researched this spa yet.... I did not realize at the time that the Vista was one of the biggest HS spas--- So I am very excited --- needless to say.. Delivery is in 1 week ! Big thanks to all those who asked my beginner questions.... Time to start reading the HOT TUB WATER CHEMISTRY section of the forum :) The warranty is 5 years parts and labor, not 5 and 2.

Just so you know, if it was made by Weslo it has nothing to do with the Tiger River Caspian.

If he really said the 700 series has the same jets as the Hot Spring he was either ignorant or lying. Both brands use their own jets. You won't find the same jets in any Sundance that Hot Spring has.

I have to disagree. As a Watkins/Hot Spring dealer I happen to know that we work together to resolve these issues. We, too, with Watkins support, have replaced a Limelight with a similar story. It takes the manufacturer and the dealer working as a team with the customer to resolve an issue like this. So, while I agree that International Hot Tubs has provided awesome service, they had Watkins with them all the way.

No Circ pump.

It's been a long time since we did one of these. As I recall you will get some discount vs. showroom price. You will actually buy the spa through Costco; it will go through the register. However, as a road show, I don't think you get the return policy. Could be wrong. You will get the local dealer support, delivery, etc. There might be some kind of a deal with Sundance for them to have the exclusive at the Costco. Which Costco is it?

Guess what? Pumps aid in heating the water regardless of the insulation method. Pumps create friction which creates heat. Hot Spring's little circulation pump puts heat into the water from the pump, which is why we sometimes call it hybrid heating. Is it a reason to buy one brand vs. another? I' don't think so.

If the floaters are biofilm, it may be a mold. I woould burn it out with high dose of chlorine.

FreeFlow has no higher end tubs.

Ingredients are the same. How they install are different. If you are not careful with the Nature2 version it can end up in your jet pump on a Tiger River. Hot Spring AG+ is easier to install. Where can you get Nature 2 for $20?

You'll have a lot of options but I'd start with spas like Caldera, D1, Hot Spring, Jacuzzi, Marquis and Sundance (those are my personal top picks, everyone's list is different). If you go to their websites you'll find they will all have a dealer locator. You simply enter your zip code and it'll tell you where your nearest dealer is located. Visit as many as you can within reasonable distance and plan to wet test your favorite 2 or 3 (preferably on the same day or at least the same weekend). If you can, go to the Philly Home Show. It is on now. Major players are there.

Do you have a link to the survey?

Congrats! Great choice. Plus, I think skipping AutoFresh and stereo is wise.

We're just back from a wet test of the Spirit. Loved the size, comfort and styling. Jet placement too was nice, though a little weaker than we anticipated. The salesperson was great, but a bit perplexed as to why the jets weren't more powerful (never had been filled. transferred water from another tub the night before to get it ready for us). Tub was setup for 120, not 240 which might have something to do with it. Not sure if the tub had an issue or wasn't started properly. At any rate, he's talking to the service tech to get a better idea. It's either that it's a 120 vs. 240 thing or there is an issue with the particular floor model we tested. We're testing another Marquis side by side with the Allure over the weekend so will have a good comparison. This all said, we loved the Spirit and are ready to pull the trigger if it can be shown to have better pressure. It is not going to be an issue of power supply. All that changes when you go from 120 to 240 volts is the heater. Pump stays the same.

If you are in Marin County (your name) check out the Hot Spring Jetsetter from Creative Energy. Classic Jetsetter is a version that can save you some money.

Agree. You won't go far wrong with any of these tubs. Prices depend on where you live. Sound high to me.

You post in another thread how much you like your dealer. Have you asked them?

In the past it has died and stopped emitting any bubbles, and the service tech checked it out and declared it dead. It has also had the nipples snap off when removing the tubing to run vinegar through it, which is what happened today when I started my drain/refill maintenance routing. In the past I have been admonished by the service tech to be sure to run 2 cups of vinegar through it each time I change the water to prolong the ozonator's life. It seems odd that with this recommendation, you also have to deal with a unit that does not seem to be built with this maintenance in mind. If it was meant to have the tubes disconnected I would expect them to have a fitting that screwed off or something other than the tight fit they have. Thanks for the feedback. Any comment on swapping out for a DEL ozonator and DEL which model is appropriate? Thanks! MCD-50

The Silver cartridge works with any ozonator. See many threads on pros and cons of Nature2 (which is what the silver cartridge is). How do you know you need to replace the ozonator? Are the nipples on the ozonator itself falling apart? Our customers have ozonators lasting 5-7 years or more.

I think it would be compatible with the controls. I think the change is the speakers. I would feel more comfortable if someone else chimes in. Petey? Jeremiah? Chas?

You really need to see it running. A tech cannot inspect or test spa without water in it. I would be concerned with it being empty for a year and a half. Where do you all live? Snow country?

All things being equal, I would get a Cover Cradle 2. Most of our customers do. However, you need to have a cover with the mounting brackets to make it work.

Several things: It's to bad you have had such a negative experience shopping for a spa. It should be fun. Dealers who bash the competition are a bad mark on the industry. As a manufacturer, Hot Spring is as strong or stronger than anyone in the industry. I totally understand your concerns about the dealer as you describe it. However, if you get a Hot Spring, the manufacturer will make sure you are taken care of. Find an Envoy and a sovereign to wet test. I am surprised the Jacuzzi is quoted higher than the Sundance. The air jets you describe are pretty useless. However, if you get the Sundance you get the system. You don't have to use it.