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Liner Question,just Got A Used Pool..

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 05:05 PM

Just got a used pool its a 27' and has a beaded liner. People said it will become brittle,Where would this happen where it is held by the edges or just everywhere in general? We took the pool down today and liner looks fine,it doesnt seem brittle or cracked anywhere around the edges,So my question is does it go bad when its not in use,or do they just go bad in time? Whats the average life span on liners?
I planned on putting the pool up next summer but people say the liner will not be good then,but if this liner is good now and can be saved I will start putting it up this year,So please let me know.
If I need to shop for a new liner what are some good brands and or where to buy from?
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Posted 06 August 2009 - 09:30 PM

I had a few more questions, I read that the average life span of a liner is 10yrs if treated properly if not it will be less around 5 or so. So another deciding factor will be if he just replaced under 3 yrs or not "Im gonna call him and ask"
But I was looking around for liners checking prices and designs and stuff and most every site I seen for a 27' round pool they came in either 48' or 52'
Now that being said when I went to go look at the pool I asked and he said it was a 4' pool "that would be the 48" pool right?"
I measured the metal wall and it came out to be 51 and a half inches,does this mean it is a 52" pool,or do they like offset things like when its said and done it will be 4' deep,and the 52" pool wall would measure around 55"
Or do I in fact have a 52" pool?
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 11:33 AM

I can't speak for all pool manufacturers, but the pools we sell also have a 52" wall with a hung beaded liner. The actual wall is 52" top to bottom, but the liner hangs about 3"-4" down from that. It has been my experience that used liners do not typically survive storage very well, mainly because of holes and tears that develop in moving it around and often brittleness is a factor also. Cracks develop in the creases where the folds are. If your liner seems suptle and soft, then you may be ok.
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 08:22 PM

I contacted the guy and he said he just installed this liner less then 4yrs ago. So instead of waiting till next season im going to go ahead and put it up next week seeing how the liner wont make it being stored. So how much sand would you recommend me to put down I was thinking about 3" sound about right?
Also would I just make a flat area of sand in a 28' radius 3" deep and put pool up,then once wall is up build a cove around? How deep and high should that be? Then just hang liner and fill?
Any tips or suggestions are welcome.
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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:47 AM

You had better keep that liner soaking in a large container of warm water if your going to try and re-install it. how long has it been dry?
If its been more than a couple days its a probability of 90% thats its not gonna go well. But all you can do is try a hope for the best.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 05:41 AM

You have a 52" pool.
3" of sand is just fine. 2" is ok too, if the dirt under it is perfectly smooth.
Putting the sand in first is a good idea, unless you have a machine big enough to dump it over the walls into the MIDDLE of the pool.
I would go with the peel and stick foam cove. Easy to install, consistent angle around the bottom of walls, and won't be damaged during installation of liner.
Liner:
You will pull your hair out trying to put that old liner in, although I don't know what kind of hairstyle you have, or if you have any hair at all. I tried to put the original liner back into my 24' beaded 3 times. Just barely streched it enough to get it into the bead receiver, and then it was at least 6" away from the walls, more near the cove. When the water got about 1/4 up, it started collapsing the metal walls. I thought " the liner came out, and i'm getting it back in ". Boy was i kidding myself. They just shrink too much. Save yourself the time, energy, and expense and get a new liner. I can almost guarantee you will have to anyway. And besides, you get to choose the pattern that YOU want.
Hope this helps.
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Posted 03 September 2009 - 11:51 AM

Our first vinyl liner lasted almost 15 years without our taking any "pains" to take special care of it.

Our second liner is about five years old and if the pool cove product was available then we never learned about it - I'm not sure what or if we're missing anything significant by not using that technology.

If you decide to buy a new liner we recommend you consider buying an expanded depth liner and digging out for extra depth.

In our opinion, the worst thing about AGPools compared to traditional inground is depth - 52in walls usually mean about 48in of net water depth and that is just dinky and makes a pool not nearly as enjoyable unless you just love waist deep water.

Our 27ft round is regular depth for about 18 inches out from the wall and then gently slopes to a center depth of over 6 1/2 feet and, to us, it makes such a BIG difference in our enjoyment of our pool.

It is also easy to add additional water outlet from your pump and a second water inlet which, when used with a suitably powered pump will increase filtering efficiency and power which, in our experience, can make pool water maintenance a lot easier. In our case we had a center drain added separately plumbed from the skimmer and a second outlet for water return and the benefits are too many to type here. We never vacuum. If there is small debris on our pool floor that can't be scooped out with a net we just sweep it into the center drain.

Final Suggestion - The guy that installed our pool over 20 years ago suggested we let him put in a gunite floor for under our liner and that was the second best thing we did after having the extra depth - the floor is always smooth and firm and maintains the shape even over the slope down to the center depth.

There is a lot you can do to an AGPool that doesn't add significantly to cost yet will deliver a much nicer pool experience.

You will be so glad you decided to buy into the AGPool experience. Ours has made such a BIG difference is how much we enjoy and even use our backyard.
Best of Luck!
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