Winters in Holland Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hi all. Great board here. My wife and I have owned a simple Great Lakes Trident spa for a few years, but it's been dormant in our garage for the past year while we moved into a new house. I'm building what I'm dubbing a "raised Earth" patio in the backyard off my sunporch: retaining wall to raise to the level of the house, then fill in with gravel for drainage, then dirt, then grass on top, etc. I think my tub will look a bit imposing if I sit it right on top of the ground on this already raised patio. *Ideally*, I would like to dig down 1.5-2 feet, pour a 4" concrete base, then sink the tub down into that, so it is closer to ground level. I can't really find much information online about it, but in looking through Great Lakes' manuals online, they recommend sitting the tub on a concrete platform above ground, so that water does not drain into the equipment. I'm probably leaning towards keeping it above ground, just because I don't want to risk ruining my tub for aesthetics. But before I do, I just wanted to see if any of you have had any experience- good or bad- with sinking a tub down into the ground. Could I make it work if I put lots of gravel between the tub walls and surrounding Earth, or is it not worth even attempting? Thanks, .WiH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winters in Holland Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/design-s...-hot-tub-39455/ Seems like a found a nice discussion of it here on a contractors' message board. These guys seem to think it's a bad idea to sink a tub, let alone into ground like I was considering. Agree? Disagree? .WiH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1oty Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 http://www.contractortalk.com/f50/design-s...-hot-tub-39455/ Seems like a found a nice discussion of it here on a contractors' message board. These guys seem to think it's a bad idea to sink a tub, let alone into ground like I was considering. Agree? Disagree? .WiH. Put me in the "I agree with the contractor's" category. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteyboy Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 We've had people do it the right way and the wrong way. Most use a concrete vault. The problem the run into is drainage, they don't allow for water runoff and/or a very good drain. We've had them fill up with water and the customer paying for all new equipment. One guy did it very well by opening a hole in the ground and lining it with 4x4 lumber. Also 4x4 for a base structure with thick gravel. It drained very well and has never had a problem. We have only sunk HotSpring spas in holes. I don't know about doing it with other brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winters in Holland Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks a bunch for the advice. The 4 x 4 idea sounds cool, but it also sounds like an epic project. I'll probably play it safe and just sit the tub on top of a 5" slab. Thanks a bunch, .WiH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petertheplumber Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Hi, I have installed a few spas in the ground, And I have not had any problems. A few things to take into consideration are drainage, servicing and access. Remember also that warm and wet areas are nice places for rats who chew the insulation. For drainaige i normally install 100mm diameter pipe into the concrete base and then out of the sides and enclosed area, this collects rain water and any spillage. I would recomend 75cm - 100cm access on all sides of the spa should you need to get in and change any pumps or parts. Here are a couple of examples, I have loads more ideas if you need some inspiration http://www.chaletcraft.com/Gallery/Spas.html Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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