Ready To Scream

[cruiser2002]

First time posting, new spa owner. Purchased in April, finally got hooked up in early May. Filled with well water and stayed clear approx 2 weeks, had a leak, had to drain for repair to a jet. Filled again stayed clear approx 1 week started to cloud, got so cloudy had to drain and start over. Same thing, called the tech to come and see if filter working properly and it was, took water sample with him and called back stating Sanitizer to high (100 ppm). Suggested using it to use up some of Sanitizer. Continuously getting cloudier until you could not see bottom at all nor most of the jets. Drained, cleaned closed up and went on vacation for a week. Filled on return 7/6/06. Added Baqua Spa (same as before) waterline 1 1/2 oz, oxidizer 3 oz. sanitizer 2 oz in the proper order with jets on as specified. (300 Gallon Spa). Had water checked on 7/7/06 needed to add 2 1/2 hardness inc. On 7/8/06 added 3 oz oxidizer due to considering heavy use. 7/10/06 added another 1 1/2 oz oxidizer due to starting to cloud up. also added 2 oz water clarifier. 7/11/06 still cloudy, had water checked, needed to add 2.75 TA Inc 12.5 Calcium Inc. and 2 oz sanitizer. 7/12/06 added another 1 1/2 waterline and 3 oz shock for my weekly maint. Useage has been as follows 7/6 2 people approx 30 min. 7/7 4 people approx 3 hours. 7/8 3 people approx 1 1/2 hrs. 7/9 6 people off & on for approx 3 hrs. 7/11 2 people 30 mins. 7/12 2 people approx 30 mins. Water has not been crystal clear since chemicals were added. Filter seems to be working and during this last period I have rinsed off filter with hose. (Also this is a new filter, which I purchased just in case the other filter had been bad). I am seriously thinking of switching to chlorine. Any suggestions?

[hottubdan]

1. Do you balance the water before adding waterline, oxidizer and sanitizer?

2. Have you tested for metals?

3. What is you filter cycle?

[Hot H2o]

First time posting, new spa owner. Purchased in April, finally got hooked up in early May. Filled with well water and stayed clear approx 2 weeks, had a leak, had to drain for repair to a jet. Filled again stayed clear approx 1 week started to cloud, got so cloudy had to drain and start over. Same thing, called the tech to come and see if filter working properly and it was, took water sample with him and called back stating Sanitizer to high (100 ppm). Suggested using it to use up some of Sanitizer. Continuously getting cloudier until you could not see bottom at all nor most of the jets. Drained, cleaned closed up and went on vacation for a week. Filled on return 7/6/06. Added Baqua Spa (same as before) waterline 1 1/2 oz, oxidizer 3 oz. sanitizer 2 oz in the proper order with jets on as specified. (300 Gallon Spa). Had water checked on 7/7/06 needed to add 2 1/2 hardness inc. On 7/8/06 added 3 oz oxidizer due to considering heavy use. 7/10/06 added another 1 1/2 oz oxidizer due to starting to cloud up. also added 2 oz water clarifier. 7/11/06 still cloudy, had water checked, needed to add 2.75 TA Inc 12.5 Calcium Inc. and 2 oz sanitizer. 7/12/06 added another 1 1/2 waterline and 3 oz shock for my weekly maint. Useage has been as follows 7/6 2 people approx 30 min. 7/7 4 people approx 3 hours. 7/8 3 people approx 1 1/2 hrs. 7/9 6 people off & on for approx 3 hrs. 7/11 2 people 30 mins. 7/12 2 people approx 30 mins. Water has not been crystal clear since chemicals were added. Filter seems to be working and during this last period I have rinsed off filter with hose. (Also this is a new filter, which I purchased just in case the other filter had been bad). I am seriously thinking of switching to chlorine. Any suggestions?

Sounds like you're using BaquaSpa. Bad idea. Go with bromine and you'll never have a problem.

[cruiser2002]

First time posting, new spa owner. Purchased in April, finally got hooked up in early May. Filled with well water and stayed clear approx 2 weeks, had a leak, had to drain for repair to a jet. Filled again stayed clear approx 1 week started to cloud, got so cloudy had to drain and start over. Same thing, called the tech to come and see if filter working properly and it was, took water sample with him and called back stating Sanitizer to high (100 ppm). Suggested using it to use up some of Sanitizer. Continuously getting cloudier until you could not see bottom at all nor most of the jets. Drained, cleaned closed up and went on vacation for a week. Filled on return 7/6/06. Added Baqua Spa (same as before) waterline 1 1/2 oz, oxidizer 3 oz. sanitizer 2 oz in the proper order with jets on as specified. (300 Gallon Spa). Had water checked on 7/7/06 needed to add 2 1/2 hardness inc. On 7/8/06 added 3 oz oxidizer due to considering heavy use. 7/10/06 added another 1 1/2 oz oxidizer due to starting to cloud up. also added 2 oz water clarifier. 7/11/06 still cloudy, had water checked, needed to add 2.75 TA Inc 12.5 Calcium Inc. and 2 oz sanitizer. 7/12/06 added another 1 1/2 waterline and 3 oz shock for my weekly maint. Useage has been as follows 7/6 2 people approx 30 min. 7/7 4 people approx 3 hours. 7/8 3 people approx 1 1/2 hrs. 7/9 6 people off & on for approx 3 hrs. 7/11 2 people 30 mins. 7/12 2 people approx 30 mins. Water has not been crystal clear since chemicals were added. Filter seems to be working and during this last period I have rinsed off filter with hose. (Also this is a new filter, which I purchased just in case the other filter had been bad). I am seriously thinking of switching to chlorine. Any suggestions?

[cruiser2002]

1. Do you balance the water before adding waterline, oxidizer and sanitizer?

2. Have you tested for metals?

3. What is you filter cycle?

I feel like I have. On 7/11 after having tested Sanitizer tested at 0, ph 7.7, TA 65, Hardness 92, TDS 0, Copper & Iron 0. Added TA 2.75 circulated 30 min pumps and jets on (no air). Then added calcium at 2.5 increments with 30 min cir. in between (no air) (sometimes longer in between) Then added 2 oz sanitizer. It did not clear up any, steadily seems to be getting a little cloudier. Spa has a 24 hr continous pump, with I think 30 seconds purge cycle every 12 hours.

Sounds like you're using BaquaSpa. Bad idea. Go with bromine and you'll never have a problem.

This is correct, I am using BaquaSpa. I am having difficulty and I am really not a stupid person although Chemistry was not my best subject. I do not have any problem with Chlorine I have been around pools all my life. That is why I was considering switching to that.

[hottubdan]

Using BaquaSpa is not a bad thing. We have thousands of satisfied users. However, there is a learning curve and it is not for everyone. also, not everyone we start on it stays on it. Same with chlorine, bromine and nature2. There is not one perfect program for everyone.

Step one at fresh fill, balance the water. 1st adjust TA, 2nd pH if needed, 3rd Calcium. Then add the core products.

Since you have well water have your dealer check for metals. You may need metal control.

Benefits of BaquaSpa are silkier water, steady residual of sanitizer, easier on hair and bathing suits.

Negatives can be cloudier water, more sensative to water balance, more sensative to metals in the water.

[cruiser2002]

Using BaquaSpa is not a bad thing. We have thousands of satisfied users. However, there is a learning curve and it is not for everyone. also, not everyone we start on it stays on it. Same with chlorine, bromine and nature2. There is not one perfect program for everyone.

Step one at fresh fill, balance the water. 1st adjust TA, 2nd pH if needed, 3rd Calcium. Then add the core products.

Since you have well water have your dealer check for metals. You may need metal control.

Benefits of BaquaSpa are silkier water, steady residual of sanitizer, easier on hair and bathing suits.

Negatives can be cloudier water, more sensative to water balance, more sensative to metals in the water.

Thanks. I had another water test today at a different place. Too much sanitizer. 149 ppm. The last water test showed 0 ppm sanitizer. So I was told to add 2 oz. They say this is what is causing my cloudiness and it will just have to burn out, but continue to do my maintenance. So what do you do if you can't even trust their testing? At least I know it ain't me....

[griffe]

You could just go with Nature 2. It reequires a tiny bit of chlorine... more than whats in city drinking water.

I am allergic to chlorine but theres so little that it dosent bother me.

WHen I was looking for a non chlorine alternative the dealer told me either nature2 or Baqa. He said Baqa clogs up the filters, makes it hard to clean, and dosent kill jearms, it just covers them. He said if my allterys were ok with nature2 to use that instead. Baqa is also expensive.

You must have an ozonator though.. Well not must, but its recommended.