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No he is real. Look at his old posts. Glad to hear that they got you fixed up Eddie. Cheers!

Hey Canucker, The birds have been bad at my house right now as well. I don't really have a way to detour their path, but you might check to see if you have any birds nesting near your hot tub. I noticed a lot of bird poo around my house, and I recently found to freshly spun nests. I sat back and watched as they would fly from tree to tree, and from my basketball goal, and back and forth and their stopping point was the nests. I removed the nests, and that has seen to help some. I

Yeah I think that this was a completely unnecessary commercial for Watkins and HS by Jeremey. I think some people do get tired of him puking his Watkins kool-aid on us in every thread. I can understand it when people do ask about HS spas, but this commercial had no business in this thread when the OP clearly wanted comments in specific to the D1 spa that he was looking at. Just my opinion.

Yes that would work fine. Or you could just turn both pumps on high speed, and that would work too.

Riiiiiight. That might be the funniest thing I have ever read on here!!

Here is a list of what I consider to be some of the top spa makers in the industry. You can enter your zip code to see who is local to you: http://www.calderaspas.com/index_caldera_hot_tubs.html http://www.d1spas.com/find-local-dealer.html http://www.hotspring.com/index_spas_hot_spring.html http://www.jacuzzihottubs.com/ http://www.marquisspas.com/storelocator/ http://www.sundancespas.com/hot-tub-dealer-locator/ There are more certainly (some good, some not so good) but those above probably make more than half of the spas sold in the US. Visit 3, 4 or 5 of the closest and see what you like. They should have spas from fully loaded to others without the bells and whistles to meet whatever your budget may be. It's always best to wet test to find the spa that fits and feels best to you but you at least want to compare rather than buy the first one you see. Good luck. I personally would add Arctic Spas to that list as well. They are also considered to be one of the better major manufactures in the industry. You can check them out at the site linked below: My link

I would agree!

Here is a fact that might not have been shared with you. HS is owned by a publicly traded company. No other spa manufacturer is. By law, a publicly traded company has to have a reserve fund for warranty; privately held companies do not. Is their any value to you? Only you can decide. That is a good fact to know about Watkins, but I would not use that as a factor in my decision making of the spa I want. Maybe if all things were equal, and then I heard that, then ya. But otherwise, by from one of the major manufactures with a solid local dealer, and you will be fine either way. I would suggest wet testing as one of the more major things to factor in to your decision.

Welcome JRing. I am not very familiar at all with Hydropool, so I cant speak of them. But, Arctic and Beachcomber both make a fine tub. I am a Arctic dealer, so I will speak mostly of them. The Fox and Cub are two of the more popular models for Arctic. Both perfect for two, although the Cub is a little bigger so you would have a little more breathing room. Sometime people have bought the Fox and came back into the store wishing they would have just bought the little bit bigger tub(The Cub). Which brings me to my next point. I would try to wet test the models if you can. That will usually help you make the decision. Also, in regards to the Arctic Spas, each model comes in four different jetting packages, so each spa is available in four different price ranges. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions in regards to the Arctic Spas! Good luck!

Yes that is a really good price on a LSE. Plus, it comes fully loaded with every option Arctic has to offer, including the Aquatremor stereo system, and the 10 years parts and labor warranty. This would be a great tub for your mom, and she would have the peace of mind with the 10 year warranty. I must add though the the Onzen has a two year warranty, and the stereo has a three year warranty, but all the other parts have a ten year warranty. In regards to your question about the jets and the Onzen, these problems have been resolved. The jet problem was fixed about three years ago when they switched to a threaded style jet. They no longer pop out at all like some of them used to. The Onzen system is much better as well. It's only been on the market for about 2.5 years old, and it had some issues when it was first released, but by now all of the kinks have been worked out, and it works really well, and people really seem to like they way that it works. Hope that helps, and good luck in your decision.

Now there's a sneaky one "way more efficient than other spas" Is it as efficient? Are the other spa's more efficient? You have no clue so that makes it what? Keep diggin a hole!! He never said that Roger and you keep implying that he did. I think maybe you just skimmed his post and didnt read the whole thing. This thread is really headed no where at this point.

Read carefully folks, I never said I didn't like Arctic. They have done it different than several major brands. They are not the only one who use thermal pane insulation effectivly. In my post above I stated my reasons for not liking the tubs (confining seating, noisier than a bunch of others and overpriced) remember I have seen them, soaked in them and fixed them. For my money there are more comfortable, quieter and better priced units out there that are just as effecient. The "just makes sence" sales line doesn't sway my opinion because ease of repair has never effected me. I did 1 in foam repair in 2009 out of a total of 71 repairs (down from previous years) and over the 10 or so years I have been repairing spas never once, not once, have I said "boy am I glad there's no foam on the shell, makes it so much easier to repair" I bend over and stick my head in the equipment bay for repair on an Arctic, just like I do when I repair a Hot Springs spa!! And I have added Ozone on FF tubs also, easy. done in the equipment bay. But most tubs are made Ozone ready now. And why would anyone want to add an overpriced stereo to a hot tub? For half the cost, a couple outdoor speakers and bluetooth your I-Pod to a exsisting 1500 watt stereo system. Last longer, will music your whole house and deck areas and work for your surround system for your bluray video system. Your opinion can be about what you feel are benifits. But don't forget mine can be about there mediocracy. I have had 3-4 customers over the last year add the Aquatremor system to their spa. If they want to buy it, I will sell it. Also, the Aquatremor design isnt available on most spas as you cant attach the transducers to the shell if their is foam on the backside. You do sound bitter in this thread though Roger. Whats the deal? Its not like you hate Arctic Spas. You have gone on record before as listing them in your top five, but it sure doesnt appear that way.

Yes it is.

One word of caution about buying an Arctic spa, or other spa not made in the US. I bought an Arctic last June. So far, it has functioned as advertised and other than two embarrassing issues with the unit when it was delivered, I have been satisfied with it. However, if you live in the US, be aware that many spa dealerships have gone out of business during the past year due to the bad economy. My Arctic dealer was one of them. I am now left high and dry without an Arctic dealer to service my spa should it need such. This is an issue with any manufacturer who has very limited geographical representation in the States. My nearest Arctic dealer is now 180 miles away, in a much smaller venue that mine (Chicago area). Wonder if they can last out the bad times if a dealer in the affluent north suburbs of Chicago can't make it. So, while I think Arctic makes a good product, the lack of local dealer support has made me less of a "fan". Please consider all the aspects of owning a spa not only now, but down the line. Had I known my dealer was readu to go belly up, I would not own an Arctic today. Make sure the dealer you buy from is a stable biz with a future. Had I done a little more homework on my local Arctic dealer, I would have found out they were already making ready to go under when I purchased the spa. I was actually lucky to have received the goods for which I paid them up-front. There's no guarantee that any biz will there tomorrow, but do your homework on their viability. Also read VERY closely the Arctic warranty statements, as with any spa warranty from any company. Grayslake, I am sorry to hear that your dealer went out of biz. That is unfortunate. But, imo, I don't think that you should tell people to avoid Arctic just because your dealer went out of biz. As unfortunate as that is, there have been dealers that represent all different kinds of brands that have went out of biz over the last two years. Just in my local area the following brands of local dealers went out of biz: Cal Spas, Jacuzzi, & Beachcomber, plus some other smaller companies. Last year in Colorado, the at one time largest Cal Spa dealer shut its doors. I have also read other people reply that their local Hot Spring and Sundance dealer have gone out of biz. I guess my point is that in these times, any local dealer could be hurting and could go out of biz no matter what brand they sell. There was a local furniture store that has been in business for over 80 years that sold top of the line furniture that shut its doors at the end of the year, and know one saw that coming. I see what you are saying about having other closer local dealers to go to, but sometimes, depending on the brand, the next closet dealer may be over 200 miles away. That is not uncommon. But, I do agree with you about researching your dealers before you buy. Ask for referrals and testimonials. Check with your local BBB to make sure they dont have a laundry list of complaints.

Congrats Dirty and enjoy your new Arctic Spa. You really did a lot of research, and will now be able to enjoy your new hot tub for years to come. Thanks for the kind words!

Thanks for the clarification Peteyboy. I don't think you were being misleading Spa Guy. I think it must of just changed. I just happened to browse the site and saw that it changed.

Not to confuse people more, but I know that the Tiger River used to have a five year component warranty, but now on their website it says three year component & heater warranty. Did that change for this year? Maybe a HS dealer will know. Here is the link to the Tiger River warranty: Tiger River Warranty So it looks like that both spas that the OP are looking at both have a three year warranty.

Congrats, and a wise choice. You will be in spatopia real soon. Enjoy your new Arctic when it comes in!!

26.2 That sounds like a pretty good price to me on the Arctic Yukon. I would say that between the two that you are looking at, the Arctic would be the one I would go with, especially since you would be getting it from a dealer. If you were to get a spa from Sears, you would most likely be out on your own when it comes time for any service or warranty repairs as Im sure Sears doesnt service Hot Tubs. So unless you are a good DYI'er, I would stay away from a tub from Sears, or any box store for that matter. Also, the Raindance warranty has much less coverage than the Arctic warranty has. The Arctic has a five year warranty, parts and labor, and the local dealer would do any repairs or warranty work as needed. You can see the warranty for the Raindance here: Raindance Warranty Only a one year labor warranty, lots of stuff prorated, and only two years on components. Arctic Spas are regarded in the industry as one of the top tier brands out there, so I don't think you could wrong with them, especially at that price with all the accessories that are included. Good luck.

Well, just got first word of the circus. Lots of spas there, but all dirty, several with cracks in the shells, and broken parts on the tubs being displayed. Commercial advertised spas starting out at $2995, the cheapest one there was $3995, and that was a small two man tub with cracks, not a 6 man as advertised. Very rude and pushy salespeople. Claimed the spas were "re-poed from dealers that went out of business in a tough economy," which we all know is a complete lie. Asked what spas were there and the girl said Master. One of them there said Legacy, and the lady said I thought Master was the line here, and she said, " a Chevy is a Chevy." All spas there were Master, Legacy, and Down east, all in the Master family. I wonder where all the other lines of all the major manufactures are at??? Asked for literature or brochures or warranty cards or manuals, and they have none to give, nor do they want to give. Said that there is a three year warranty. Asked if it is a parts and labor warranty, and said its a three year warranty. Asked who worked on them, she said that the local stores do. Asked which store specifically, and she said, "no idea". There is a master store, call them. I'm sure the owner of that store will love hearing that!! Pretty much a complete joke, and its a shame that lots of people will be duped into these spas and that they will be all on their own starting after they write the check. Buyer Beware!!

Just heard the commercial on the radio today. I called their 800 number and someone actually answered. I was expecting a answer machine. He told me it will be the biggest show in KS ever and said that it will have over 100 spas to look at. I asked him what spas would be there, and he said all the major manufactures. I said what ones. He said I cant tell you sir, you have to go to the show to see for yourself. I said, well, can I go to a website to preview. He said, no you cant sir, you must go to the show to see the deals in person. I then said have fun scamming people as this is a joke of a show. Buyer beware to any Kansas people looking for spas. You have been forewarned. There will not be all the major manufactures there. This is false advertising. This is one company and one company only that does a traveling road show. Do a search on here for the Traveling Spa circus and you will see for yourselves!

You might also check out the Arctic Fox by Arctic Spas. Its a very comfortable 2-4 person spa, and it would fit through your gate, as it is 86 x 69 x 39. It also has a lounger in it, and is available in four different jetting packages which also makes it available if four different prices. You can go to Arctic Spas dealer locater to see if there is a dealer near you area. Let me know if you have any questions.

I generally agree, pricing for older spas is all about condition but in general $1300 for a 9 yr old spa is not a steal. Depending on condition maybe its worth that but without it operating I wouldn't buy it and the key to buying any used spa is to see it in operation. I know the poster said "She is willing guarantee that it will work when I get it home." but I'd like to see it operating at her place first or have something in writing that I can return it in 30 days if unsatisfied if I'm really going to go by the owner guarantee. I couldn’t agree more. I responded to this same thread on the other forum, and that is when I thought it was seven years old. I wouldn't buy any used spa without seeing it running unless it was free. Even if they will guarantee it, what happens if you get it to your house and it all hooked up, and there are problems? Do you then move it back to the other house, or does the original owner pay for repairs. I have seen it before on older spas, that sometimes they were fine when they were winterized, but then when you open them back up, a pump will be locked up, or the heater went bad, etc. Just make sure you have all you ducks in a row before you buy it.

You have a bad motor. Most motors have a capacitor mounted either on the top of the motor under a rounded metal piece or mounted in the back were the wires are located. You can try to replace this or have it tested. Be careful when removing the cap as not to touch the connection points. It maybe just this piece if not something is wrong in the start windings or switch if so you will need a new motor You had mentioned that the motor was only four months old. Sometimes motors have a one year warranty one them, so you may check with the company that you ordered it from before you just scrap it.

Glad to hear you have had a great experience Dano. Thanks for sharing. You definitely did your research!!