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Is that the a pacific brand spa and if so what model or did you mean the Artesian pacific model? Our Pacific Calypso should be here in 15 minutes if the delivery drivers are on time.

I may be wrong, but I think he was trying to not put in piers, I'm Bad if I did not understand... I know that piers were not mentioned so you are right or not bad? with the weight of the tub you still want the piers to prevent differential settlement. You can lower the piers below grade or build the deck around a pad as someone elso noted. Better yet i work for a foundation piling company in Canada and for the right price we could install piers to bedrock for you

The solution is the same as building a wooden deck at grade and you should be able to find this info on the internet. Install your concrete piers and joist hangers, however the concrete pier would be stopped at the required distance below grade so that your deck will be at grade. Use treated wood for your joists and then add your decking at grade. Make sure your joist spacing and size is adequate for your spa as it will weigh over 5000 pounds with water and people

I always suggest a concrete pad as it is economical and permanent. Use the search function and type in concrete or concrete pad. Here is one thread. go to the end to find the info. http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.ph...crete&st=20 Your options are Concrete Wood deck. should be supported by piers well compacted aggregate base - least desirable

Our Pacific Caypso arrives tomorrow at 4PM. The elctrician however is out of town. We are so close to soaking! The key to the Genesis system as pathfinder stated is a good dealer. Our dealer will come out with the sodium bromide and personally treat the water, set up the tub for the first time and will go over everything with us. Our dealer originally was at the factory so he definately knows his stuff. As stated we will let you know the outcome. If you decide against the genesis system you can always go with the spafrog or just normal sanitation systems. For the price we were willing to gamble on the chance of only having to do one water change per year. Our tub was the floor demo model so we got a great price, still have full warranty and it came with every option including the genesis system so we could not refuse trying the system. IMO the pacific is definately a better built spa and we also wet tested the coast spas. Talk to your Pacific dealer and get the price without the genesis system and you will see that the price will be almost the same.

Looks like a possibility if someone is in your area. Spatech's solution is still the cheapest solution if your slab supplier will not remedy the situation. The other option if self levelling concrete which will bond to your concrete if you scarify the existing concrete and this is posted under another "levelling" thread.

As long as water is able to enter the filter side and the height of water into the filter compartment meets with the manufacturers recommendations you will not have any issues. This will now make the water higher on the neck jet side but you should have enough freeboard. The only issue you may have is some splashing over when the tub is full of people but this should be minor. The above being said the fix is fairly simple so it is more a matter of how you feel about a tub that is slightly out of level.

If you can not find pea gravel you can always use a 3/4" minus material or "navvy jack" as this material packs well due to the different sizes of aggregate and also levels well. Being from Canada I did not recognize PT as pressure treated. We are scared of the symbols PT as this could mean you are now part time.

Spatech's solution is definately the most economical solution. There is another thread on this forum regarding the same issue. I would use treated wood and treat the area you have cut with a wood preservative and this pad will last for years. I would also lag bolt your frame to your existing concrete pad

Concrete is definately the best option and not that expensive. Concrete will prevent the following 1) It will prevent roots from getting under your tub if trees are near 2) It will not heave if you are in a cold area from water freezing and thawing around your tub 3) If you do not have a permanent solid base it will prevent rodents and wasps etc from nesting inside your tub. Mice will go anywhere warm in the winter and they love to chew things. 4) concrete looks good and you can stamp it if you want. 5) concrete will not settle unevenly Remember that you must have at least a foot of well compacted material under your concrete or limestone etc. You should rent a compactor to compact the ground. If you do not decide to go with concrete I would use a navvy jack or 3/4' minus pit run as this material packs well and will give you a smooth level surface. this material is also good as a subbase for your concrete. The wood deck is also an option however I would put in some piers to prevent uneven settlement. When you review your costs you will find that the concrete is not that expensive an option

thanks for your response. The water came from a carbon pre block filter that remove everything over 0.5 microns. This was recommended as we have a bromine generator in our spa. maybe the filter is removing too much calcium. I will check it against normal tap water. What issues will I have with the soft water. I know that they recommend againt soft water so maybe I do not want to use the filter.

We wet tested both the Sunndance Cameo and Optima and the Jacuzzi J-470. I am tall and found the Jacuzzi pillows hit my neck and shoulder instead of my head. Both spas had great jets and were comfotable to sit in. The Optima and J-470 were similar and we liked the Optima better and it was cheaper. I would base your decision on the wet test and remember that the above spas were the premier models and maybe the Sundance 780 series or Jacuzzi 300 series will be fine for you

Thanks for you response Pathfinder. The pentair says multiply by 50 and I only added 3 drops of the #7 solution so I will try it tomorrow and add at least 8 drops to see if I can make it go red

We have a Pentair 782/783 test kit. The instuctions for the water hardness state. 1) Add 2 drops of solution #6 to the water. (this solution is blue so the water is now blue) 2) Carefully add solution #7 (1) drop at a time, shaking vial between drops to mix. Count the number of drops it takes the red color to"just" change to pure blue color. My problem is the water is already blue from adding the 2 drops of #6 solution. My question is do I have the wrong color of #6 solution or should instruction 2 state "Carefully add solution #7 (1) drop at a time, shaking vial between drops to mix. Count the number of drops it takes the BLUE color to"just" change to pure RED color. I have emailed pentair and hope they will respond. Confused in BC thanks you in advance for your help.

We have a Pentair 782/783 test kit. The instuctions for the water hardness state. 1) Add 2 drops of solution #6 to the water. (this solution is blue so the water is now blue) 2) Carefully add solution #7 (1) drop at a time, shaking vial between drops to mix. Count the number of drops it takes the red color to"just" change to pure blue color. My problem is the water is already blue from adding the 2 drops of #6 solution. My question is do I have the wrong color of #6 solution or should instruction 2 state "Carefully add solution #7 (1) drop at a time, shaking vial between drops to mix. Count the number of drops it takes the BLUE color to"just" change to pure RED color. I have emailed pentair and hope they will respond. Confused in BC thanks you in advance for your help.

If the hot tub is out 4" in 96" this is 0.5" per foot which would have been noticeable to your landscape contractor. It is sloppy work as you have stated. At least the water covers the filter and soaking will relieve the stress associated with thinking about the landscaper. I would talk to your landscaper. If you have written instructions to him requesting a level pad you may be able to go through small claims court to get the costs to remedy the situation. If not I would not worry about it and just enjoy your spa.

It sounds like fixing this problem will not be easy. If it is not to far out of level and water is making it the filters as Dr Spa stated you may want to leave it alone. A picture may help us offer suggestions if it is too far out of level and/or water is not making it to the filters. Right now the only solution I have for you if the people who brought the spa will not move it is a crane company who can sling the tub from the bottom. This willl be expensive and you will have to pay again to move it back into place. You may want to offer the original movers more money. If you have not paid the landscaper yet maybe he will pay for part of the costs. As Spatech and myself have stated you have the wrong size rock and the load of your tub may not be evenly distributed on the structural members. Remember to compact the new fill prior to moving your tub back.

What is the weight of the tub empty. You will want to drain the tub. Talk to you spa dealer and see if it is OK to tip it on its side. You sub base has aggregate that is way to large so you will want to remove some of this material and replace it with a navvy jack or pit run material with a maximum 1 inch aggregate size. The above materials are a blend of some sand and different gravel sizes and they compact very well. If you can tip the tub on its side with the help of some friends, replace your subbase, level the area and compact, then flip the tub to the other side and repeat.

Our dealer in BC offered the Pacific Solara floor model for $7499 + taxes for the floor model which came with a 24 hour circ. pump, cover, upgraded skirt and a few other extras. The base model which has 21 "real" jets may be cheaper. The link to the website is http://www.pacificspas.ca/pacificSpa.htm. As mentioned on this forum wet test first and if the dealer is using sales pressure tactics walk away. The spa buying experience should be a fun one. We enjoyed our wet testing over the 3 week period before buying our spa and all of the dealers were great and there was no pressure. This is just one of the options if Arctic will not renegotiate.

We were quoted 10,300 Canadian + taxes delivered to our house for the 2008 cameo. This included the ozone, cover and lifter plus chemicals. I am 6 feet tall and the louger and other deep seat were a good fit. I could not decide whether I really wanted the lounger and I also wanted a more powerful calf and hip massage so we went with the Pacific Calypso as we got a good deal on the floor model. We wet tested 10 spas and the Cameo came in second. It is a good spa and I do not think you can go wrong with it. It is a large purchase though and I do not think you are being pushy to ask to wet test it first. Good luck and happy soaking.

Based on the above you have paid too much for your tub. Since the cover lifter etc is already included you should renegotiate the price or ask for your money back. Hopefully one of the Arctic dealers on the site will let you know what a fair price is for a tub with only 14 actual jets. We thought Arctic was a great spa and it made it to our short list of 4 out of 10 hot tubs wet tested. It did not fit me perfectly and we went with the Pacific Calypso as we did get a great deal on the floor model. If your dealer will not renegotiate I would ask for your money back and let the dealer know it was a hasty decision and you want to test other spas before making a final decision. Your can definately do better with Pacific, Sundance, Caldera, beachcomber, Jacuzzi to name a few.

The price does seem high for the floor model. I believe we were quoted around $9,000 for the summit signature series which had 2 pumps and 33 jets. We are in BC. If you have just purchased it and they are not willing to reduce the price have then thow in cover lifters, stairs chemicals etc. These items do not cost the store as much as a cash discount. If they are a good dealer you will want to continue to see them. Our Arctic dealer offered free water testing for life, free filter cleaning etc. If you can not arrive at a price that satisfies you ask for your money back or contact your credit card company. We did not purchase an Arctic tub but the dealer was great and the other Arctic dealers on this site seem to be great too. I am sure Tom or some other Arctic dealer on this site can ease your mind.

It appears that there are 2 " water boys" on this forum. I am the one without the space. We wet tested 10 different spas and Arctic was deep enough for me and I am 6 feet tall. Arctic made it to our short list but the Pacific Calypso won as it fit perfectly and we got a great deal on the fully loaded floor model. We liked the Arctic and the pacific spas as they both had the salt water option. The only issue I had with the arctic, and it really was not an issue, is we founfd it to be noisier. The Arctic spas have very long seats so you can almost lounge in them. We wet tested the summit legend extreme and it had great jets. As you see from this forum wet test as many as you can, eliminate the ones you did not like and then go back for one final wet test and wet test your 2 or 3 favourites on the same day.

As you have noted above you will wet test once you have decided what you are looking for. Wet testing will let you know what you are looking for. We wet tested 10 spas and this reduced our choice to 2 for fit comfort placement of jets and floating. This is the time of year to try and get a deal on that floor model if it is available. Sorry to hear that the pacific calypso spa is out of your price range as it is a great spa. We wet tested Pacific, clearwater, Hotspring, Sundance, Arctic, Cal, Coast, Dynasty, Jacuzzi and Beachcomber and they all had benefits whether it be the features or the price. The most important aspect is the fit as who wants the neck jets hitting the middle of you shoulder blades, floating or getting stuck as you stated. On a lighter note I hear that hot tubs are great for weight loss.

For wet testing contact the dealer the day before to see if the spa you want is there and give them a chance to fill it if if it not already filled. We did not mind if other people were there when we wet tested but if you do the places in BC offered to open before of after hours if we wanted privacy. Last of all the dealer would appreciate it if you rinse your bathing suits in the washing machine with water only to remove the phospates. Enjoy the wet testing. I look forward to hearing about your thoughts on the Pacific spas.