Ddub69

Short is good

Blistered spas are a dima a dozen. You can find used spas all day long in Craigslist, local want ads, etc. Those with structural / surface damage to the shell have little value. Anything else in the spa can ne easily fixed (in comparison) by many different people. It's kind of like an automobile: you can find a dozen mechanics to fix mechanical problems, but a GOOD body man --- one who can make it like new without having to refinance your house --- is a rare breed indeed. I ofund 4 used hot tubs / spas in my local Craigslist a few minutes ago ranging in price from $500 - $1800. None of them said anything about blisters, bubbles, etc. You could probably even get a real nice one that had an internal leak, and find someone who would do the repairs for a lot less money, IMO. Check around your area to see what people charge to do this kind of repair. But, if it has already happened twice, it sounds like it may be a structural problem with the shell itself, or a weakness in the design, or both. If so you can potentially expect it to happen again.

You say your father located an area that was responsible for the short, but then you ask what might be causing it? If you have located what is causing the short, then you would just repair / replace that problem. a GFCI measures imbalance of electricity, so if it is tripping because of a short it is doing its job. If you do an internet search on hot springs serial numbers matrix you can figure out what you have. From what I can decipher of the serial number it looks like it is probably a 1991 model.

By the way the product we sell does have a transferable warranty Marquis. This is why I have narrowed my search down to Marquis and Jacuzzi. Looks like it will be the Marquis 530, I just wish I could wet test it first. Baja. I did some research and I just read the Marquis warranty . It seems, to me, ambigious --- at best. The first two sentences of the warranty reas as follows: "This warranty extends to the original retail purchaser of the spa for personal, family or household purposes only. This warranty is transferable." I read this as a way for a manufacturer to be able to have it's cake and eat it too. On the one hand, from a marketing perspective, they can use the "transferability" aspect of the warranty to sell more product. On the other, it gives them an out if they decide not to honor its transferability. I agree... it does say that the warranty is transferable. But you must also agree that it says it is only good to the original retail purchaser. If you think that it reads otherwise, ie; that the "only" portion is in reference to the use, and not the purchaser, just ask an attorney. If you do you will discover that the way in which it is written allows the manufacturer to apply the "only" portion of the statement to either the person or the use... nice trick. All that aside, I fail to see how the transferability of a product's warranty should have any bering on the purchase decision. Other than a motor vehicle... boats, cars and motorcycles..., how many products do people purchase second-hand whereby a transferable warranty is a factor in the purchase decision? Motor vehicles are traded in and sold second-hand on a regular basis. When they are traded in with a remaining warranty (approximately 70%) as opposed to being sold outright by the owner of the vehicle (30%), the car dealership has a marketable feature to give added value to the sale... a warranty. So, take a guess what was the impetus for the advent of a transferable warranty in the automobile industry? You guessed it... dealers pressed for, and got, it. Do you think that adds to the actual cost of the product? Of course it does. Most warranty's, be they for hot tubs, autos, or microwaves, are written to give a product viability and marketability WHILE PROTECTING THE MANUFACTURER. The strength of a products warranty does not lie within the text of the warranty, but in the character of the company that stands behind it. Period. How many times have you heard stories about people who have had to fight tooth and nail to get what they thought was "the right thing to do"? How many times have you heard someone talk about an auto repair shop that charged them twoce what they were originally quoted and, when they got it back, it was worse than when they brought it in? And, when they took it back, it was like walking into a lion's den. Buy a product for what it will do for you, in the price range you feel comfortable, with the features you want, a warranty you feel good about, from a company you feel you can trust. Is a transferable warranty going to give you a more pleasurable experience when you go for a soak at night? Will it make it more enjoyable, more efficient, look better on your patio, or be something your friends will be impressed with? I doubt it. If you sell spas you should be selling them based upon the merit of the product, the company's reputation, and the manufacturer's standing within the industry. If you are buying a spa you should base that decision upon what is important to you. I highly doubt that, in the big picture, a transferable warranty would be high on anybody's list of "gotta have". JMHO

Ummm.... I'm no expert on legal matters but, in my pea-brain opinion, that would be....... lemme see here.......... I know there's a word for this... just have to think for a minute.... Oh! I think I got it: Fraud? Lying? Deceit? And not only are you advocating the fraud, you are testing the waters to see if it's "OK" to involve someone else in the deceit. It is what it is, and it aint what it aint, and it aint transferable. Deal with it. If you got a good deal then just be satisfied and enjoy your purchase. Is it not clear that warranty is a function of price? If you have 2 IDENTICAL products, one has a 5 year warranty, the other has a 10 year warranty... assuming the warranties AND the performance thereof are also IDENTICAL.... which one do you think would cost more? There is a cost associated with any warranty on any product you purchase. That cost is calculated on the front side of the manufacturing spectrum, taking into consideration such factors as service life, cost of repair, supplier support and average life. All factors are weighed in statistical anaylsis to arrive at a cost-per-warranty span, and we as consumers pay that cost. The person who bought the spa brand new paid for his or her warranty, it was a manufacturer's warranty, and it expires upon transfer of ownership. If you have "issues" with my post then I suggest you see someone about that. Unfortunately, I fear that with the degradation of social moray's in general you will probably find sympathy, but you won't get any from me.

A. The #1 cause of motor failure is heat. #2 would be "cycling" - when it turns on and off. When you have a dual-speed motor, and it cycles on and off, it wears. If a motor is continuously running it does not suffer the wear and tear of cycling. Generally a 2-speed motor will run anywhere from $200.00 to $400.00, depending on brand. A continuous circulation pump would cost from $80 - $180.00. B. In order to get a true energy comparison you have to "do the math". Look at the amp draw on a circ pump and multiply it by 24. Then look at the amp draw on the low speed of a 2 speed motor, multiply it by how long the manufacturer recommends it run in a 24 hour period, and multiply that by the amp draw. There's your comparison. C. The faster the water is carried over the heating element or exchanger the less efficient the heater is. Since heating water works on a logarithmic scale, the more heat recovery that is necessitated by the demand side (thermostat, etc.) the longer it will take, but will gain exponentially with the increase of temperature. If the water is traveling over the element at twice the speed it actually takes MORE than double the time to have the same temperature gain, all other things being equal (kw heating capacity, etc.) D. Ozone has a half-life of 18 seconds at 100* F. If ozone is not injected into the water continuously it dissipates in less than 1 minute. If you are using ozone on a spa that cycles on and off it becomes ineffectual and, therefore, necessitates more disenfectant than one with continuous input. E. The noise factor comparison is model specific. While most circulation pumps are noticably quieter than 2 speed motors, there are 2 speed motors that are extremely quiet, and continuous pumps that are noisy. That's like saying an 8 cylinder car is noiser than a 6 cylinder car.

The voltage has nothing to do with the power of the jets. The power of the jets is derived from the balance between the engineering of the spa as a system, as a whole. 110 volts cannot handle as many ampres as 220v. Hence, a 110v spa cannot operate the heater and the jet pump simultaneously. If the Prodigy is a "convertable" spa, eg; you can hook it up either 110v or 220v, the only difference you will have is that the heater will actuate at the same time the jet pump is engaged if the demand is there. I got my first spa in 1984, and have owned a different one at every house I have moved to. All the spas I have owned have been 110v, and I need powerful jets for my back. I have never had an issue with not being able to get powerful enough jets... you just have to find the right one. Wet testing is a good idea... that whould tell you all you need to know for comfort, power, etc. The rest is all in who you believe.