GSmith

I am in need of a replacement pump for A Coyote Outlaw spa. Does anyone know the intake/ discharge sizes for the Waterway pump used in the 2009 models The pumps label show Model: NEW41 2 speed. Their website lists the discontinued models and indicates this unit would have a 56 frame motor. I don't need to get the same make of pump but need the hose sizes. Yes I emailed Arctic Spa but sometimes they are really slow at getting back No I can not measure the unit. I run a resort and the unit is still in use. I can hear the bearing is getting worse so want to swap it out before the winter sets in. thanks for any help Geoff

There is supposed to be insulation on the floor?? I have 3 Bandits and 3 Outlaws and there is nothing but some over spray on the floos. When I remove the wood siding there is foam walls that access panels are cut into and this is all 2 inch thick with no gaps.

I am jumping into this too late I see but perhaps others will read this great thread before buying. There is one very simple way to tell if you will use your tub on a regular basis and be willing to do the water care even if you are not using it. Take a look around your place right now. Do you have a exercise equipment sitting in the corner? maybe cross country skis or snowshoes, hardly used. books you started to read but never did? Did you have gym membership but hardly used it? I mean no criticism on your character by these questions but I can assure the novelty will wear off and this item can not sit neglected in the corner. It really is that simple.

Reese has it been raining where you are? I have PH problems if it rains alot. I do not find the covers keep all the water out. 1/4 drain the tub and refill will drop the levels then add Alk to stabilize. I buy PH down from Home Hardware but I live 4 hours north of Toronto and have no access to no name chems.

I had to give up on reading all the replies you were just going in circles it seemed. First off, the only mention I can find of the word SHOWER was to wash off after using the tub. Let me say this loud and clear....ALL TUB USERS MUST SHOWER BEFORE ENTERING THE TUB. I run a cottage resort with 7 tubs and I can tell you people do not get this. :angry: The scum and film on your tub was from moisturizers and hair gels or conditioners and makeup and dead skin.... need I go on. Have you ever swum in a lake? There is bacteria everywhere so lets not get worked up to much over this. There is no need to flush and fill twice. SERIOUSLY it is not baking on in the pipes. Dump the water, fill it and add your sanitizer of choice. You can add some shock if you want but the proper sanitizer will deal with the miniscule amount of anything diluted into a tub full of water. If you are on city water which is chlorinated, that amount of clean water would eliminate anything that might have been in a jet. Bromine does not burn off as fast in the heat of a tub as chlorine does. Make sure before the crowd comes over that you have had the proper Bromine level for a couple days, this will mean you have enough banked in the tub Make sure everyone showers FIRST. when you have finished for the night put a cap full of spa shock(not pool shock) in the tub. In the morning, before noon if you can, check the levels. You will need to add Bromine usually if there has been many bathers. ALSO and this is big as well. Cloudy foamy water from many bathers can be as simple as detergent residue in the swim suits. Many people are using the 2x or 3x detergents and still using a cap full which is way to much. This does not wash out completely in the laundry. When they land in the tub without showering in their swimsuit all the detergent rinses out nicely in your tub. I see this all the time and can just about tell which laundry detergent they use. There is no chemical that can counter this.

One thing to keep in mind is the taper from centre to outer edge. My Coyote spas came with flat covers 2" thick. I have replaced them slowly with covers that are 4" at the center tapering to 3" at outer edge. This helps with shedding rain and melting snow and the thickness sure makes a dif in winter heating.

Yes we did the same charging a cleaning fee for failure to leave it in reasonable condition. We even had to have a separate $150 fee for pet clean up around the outside of the cottage to ensure poop and scoop. I have been trying TSP as well and yes it needs very good rinsing after for sure. Never heard of those other products maybe not by that brand name up here. I hate having to get a cleaner from the Spa stores because they cost so much more. Ah well

What ever the standard Arctic Spa tub has. A skim filter. It filters every 6 hours if no buttons are touched otherwise it filter as it runs. I can change the duration of the filtering but not the frequency. I have had only one complaint of a rash and I believe they went into the tub to early after shocking it. They left a note so I never got to talk to them about it but she did mention she was sensitive to Bromine. I have to be very careful about dumping tubs. I am on a well and do not have large amounts of water to mess with. I think I need to be swapping filters out a lot more often as well. What do you all suggest for cleaning filters?

Sorry for taking so long in responding. I am running a cottage resort with a hot tub at each cottage so it does not fall under the same rules a "spa" or public hot tub beside a public pool. Yes I give the spiel about showering before using the tub to remove lotions, moisturizers and to do so in your bathing suit to remove excess laundry soap. I can now tell those folks who use to much soap to do their laundry. Since the tubs are not communal the tubs are checked once a day around noon so no one is caught naked just getting out of bed. Even then some people complain about the intrusion even though the tub is on the front deck.....Ya can't win for trying. The problem is folks are in the tubs till all hours so they may be sitting 10 hours before they are treated. Oh and then there is the drinks spilt or the food dropped etc... You might want to look into switching to chlorine and using liquid chlorine with a peristaltic dosing pump. When I was taking care of the pools and tubs and splash area for kids at a resort condo this is how we dealt with the tubs. This way chlorine is being continuously dosed into the water. The tubs should still be tested a few times a day, particularly during the daytime if they are exposed to sunlight but once you get everything adjusted it should pretty much stay clean and sanitized. Now there is an idea. I will have to see how that can be added to an Arctic spa tub. most times I can keep the water clear with what I am doing now but there is always the groups that mess it up. beer labels in the tub and filter, or food you know how it can be.

Sorry for taking so long in responding. I am running a cottage resort with a hot tub at each cottage so it does not fall under the same rules a "spa" or public hot tub beside a public pool. Yes I give the spiel about showering before using the tub to remove lotions, moisturizers and to do so in your bathing suit to remove excess laundry soap. I can now tell those folks who use to much soap to do their laundry. Since the tubs are not communal the tubs are checked once a day around noon so no one is caught naked just getting out of bed. Even then some people complain about the intrusion even though the tub is on the front deck.....Ya can't win for trying. The problem is folks are in the tubs till all hours so they may be sitting 10 hours before they are treated. Oh and then there is the drinks spilt or the food dropped etc...

Well folks I am not able to find much regarding commercial tubs in the forum but I'm hoping there are others out there running them. I have a cottage resort in NE Ontario. On a well system, running 4 tubs. 2 tubs are 1000 liter and 2 are 1500 liter. 2 part bromine and pucks in floater. I can get the water balanced and have it stay clean if no ones is using them. 2 or 3 people and I can keep up usually. But when I have 5-7 people using a tub for a weekend stay I can not keep the tub clean. I can not always shock after the first evening use because they may be using the tub the next day. But even when I do shock if there is heavy bather load I have to dump the tub by the second or third day....when they leave. Does any one have ideas on what to use to treat the water? Is it even possible in a commercial setting to keep them clean without dumping? Much appreciated Geoff