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The Marquis dealer is claiming that his spa is more energy efficient than the Hot Springs because his cover is better. Supposedly locks in more heat. I don't really buy it as I do think the HS is probably better energy wise. I don't think the Marquis is a slouch though either. When I go there and mention the energy stuff vs. HS when he claims again that his spa is better, i'll ask him if he has a meter to back it up. Are you from Long Island? Is it Ocean Spray that's telling you $42 a month for the Envoy? Yes, see earlier posts in this section regarding the HS purchase. There was an energy graph in the dealer Ocean Spray but had it confirmed by a third party who has a separate meter on his vanguard tub. The winter months are higher than the summer (will probably balance out our summer a/c, now if I can only offset my oil drops I will be happy) but the figure is an average cost.

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Can't give you a fair answer since we are so distant state wise that is would not help you. Forget about the looks and Wet test it. I posted in this forum see that answer "Another guy form Long Island looking for spa advice" it is about 22 or so below this question. I am the last answer (as of today) on May 31. IT may help you.

Hi there. Mind i ask how much the Envoy ran you at Ocean Spray? Thanks. The whole Magilla inc tax and the covermate III (upgrade to covermate III for $100,) was $9879. We are very pleased with the experience thus far. I did find it disconcerting that we couldn't wet test the Soverign, but after calling all dealers from Yonkers to the Hamptons and none had it filled we had to either go with it or not. Sure, after purchasing it we would get "used" to the feel of the Soverign and love it, especially when not in direct comparison to the Envoy. But to spend almost $8000 on something we couldn't wet test seemed "dumber" then spending more and knowing we were happy!!! We really didn't care for the Vanguard and were concerned that if we could dislike that one so much - what would we feel like if we bought the Soverign and hated it. Since we figure this will last a minimum of 10 years with care - it was roughly a $100 a year or at the rate we are going a tank of gas and since we are all going to be stuck home might as well be able to be able to "tub". Hope this helps.

Just wanted to chime in having just found this particular forum. My hubby and I have a Hot Springs in the family (brother) and they love it. We did the 110 in Farmingdale drive and checked out all the spa places knowing that our only real choice was going to boil down to a Sundance or Hot Springs. We wanted a "smaller" rather than larger tub as it is just the 2 of us and we thought we wanted the lounge seat since dear brother didn't have it. Last weekend we wet tested the Vanguard and Envoy with the lounge. Our original thought was that the Soverign would work just fine but it couldn't be wet tested so that concerned me. We started with the Envoy and then hopped to the Vanguard and back and forth. We fell in love with the Envoy and spent the next jump in and out trying to decide if we could be happy with the Soverign. We loved the lounger and the foot jets an the moto massage - Ahhhhh!!!!! Brian at Ocean Spray Hot Springs could not have been nicer and even indicated that he thought we would be just as happy in the smaller tub. Not what you would expect from a salesman!!! In the end we decided upon the Envoy - you only live once and we are trying to do a good deed for the country and spend our stimulus check!!!! Since that was the difference between the Soverign and the Envoy we decided to bite the bullet.. The wet test was the deal breaker even between the Vanguard and the Envoy and we can't wait to start to bubble.