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I have learned today that to bury a doughboy pool would be O.K. with my torpedo grass. There is a special

liner for that. I have not gotton a quote yet, but would like to know if anyone knows a round about price difference between the buried pool and a granite, of course depending on size. I would go with the biggest doughboy that that would have. Would it be thousands?

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I have learned today that to bury a doughboy pool would be O.K. with my torpedo grass. There is a special

liner for that. I have not gotton a quote yet, but would like to know if anyone knows a round about price difference between the buried pool and a granite, of course depending on size. I would go with the biggest doughboy that that would have. Would it be thousands?

I'm not familliar with Doughboy brand, but I just bought an Esther Willaims. They have a model that is rated to be partialy burried. It has extruded alluminum side slats. Looking quickly at the doughboy site, it looks like thier pool walls are jsut rolled steel or alluminum. These are rated to be burried? What makes their wall so strong?

But yes, a qualty pool, burried or not will be in the thousands of dollars. I belive the Esther Williams above ground pools start at about $2K plus Installtion. (1K) I installed a 21' above ground pool for about $4500.

I belive the model rated for semi-inground started bout $5500 plus the additional work for installation. My dealer told me that on some of the high end installatons run 15000-250000 and looked "stunning"

I don't know about a granite pool? Do you mean gunite?

A typical inground pool here in New England, with concrete walls and vinly liner starts at about $25000 and goes up.

Your best bet is to contact the local dealers, have them come out and see what's invovled and proved a quote.

If you are on ledge, you'll have to blast to put an inground pool. $$$$$

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I'm not familliar with Doughboy brand, but I just bought an Esther Willaims. They have a model that is rated to be partialy burried. It has extruded alluminum side slats. Looking quickly at the doughboy site, it looks like thier pool walls are jsut rolled steel or alluminum. These are rated to be burried? What makes their wall so strong?

But yes, a qualty pool, burried or not will be in the thousands of dollars. I belive the Esther Williams above ground pools start at about $2K plus Installtion. (1K) I installed a 21' above ground pool for about $4500.

I belive the model rated for semi-inground started bout $5500 plus the additional work for installation. My dealer told me that on some of the high end installatons run 15000-250000 and looked "stunning"

I don't know about a granite pool? Do you mean gunite?

A typical inground pool here in New England, with concrete walls and vinly liner starts at about $25000 and goes up.

Your best bet is to contact the local dealers, have them come out and see what's invovled and proved a quote.

If you are on ledge, you'll have to blast to put an inground pool. $$$$$

yes i mean gunite, sorry I used the wrong word. Well they back up their warrenty and it is a small mom and pop company which is good as far as I am concerned. If I could put one in for about 13 or 14 grand I would be ok. I could probably have a local put the deck around it. My thing is the torpedo grass. Everyone says to move if you have it. We use roundup on a constant basis and it hardley helps. I am not sure that I will go this route, But I may. Buy the way do you know Hugh Grant? I have to ask people that for fun.

Gina

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Hughe Grant? huh? :)

Well, I'd recomened getting quotes from a few differen places just to see who's got what. A lot has to do with you particuliar lot and the excavation. The install on an inground varies signifcantly.

In New England with the snow and frost I wouldn't dream of putting anything less than a concrete or gunnite pool in ground. Perhaps it's different in warmer climates. But burrying an Above ground pool to me sounds like trouble. (What happens if you need to drain the pool or get a leak?)

Hey....what about pouring a cement pad for your Above ground pool, placing sand on that (or maybe those new foam blankets or both). Concrete has got to stop the grass?! I bet you could pour a pad/patio, put a great above ground pool on it, and have money left over for decking, hottub, patio furniture. :)

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Hi, I'm fumbling through trying to improve my home. I am crazy about stone, would like to buy well and with confidence. Could you help me with some basic knowledge about what I am trying to select? I have received bids on installing a granite kitchen counter. This area is in the shape of an asymetric, square cornered "U". (one side is shorter than the other) I calculate high at 37 sqft flat surface, 10.5 linear ft. of bullnose, 16.5' linear of backsplash (4") and 9' of 3" sill inserts. The contractor calls this 61 sq ft total. testking 70-649 I take into consideration various waste but think that this might not require as much stone if it was cut more precisely. What are the prohibitions associated with cutting 4" and 3" slabs from the same square foot piece? I have received an answer from the installer but would like to hear another opinion. Also, can you tell me where this stone (giallo veneziano) comes from as I cannot find it in the stone album? What price does this type of granite normally sell at? What differenciates quality and pricing? Please advise me about things to ask bout and things to be on the look out for with the "Michelangelos" of stonework in order to insure that I receive the best product and workmanship possible for my money. testking 312-50 Thanks in advance for your help. I cant beleieve that there is someone like you out here. after finding and reading thru your site, I feel less scared.

I chose this particular stone because the original kitchen project installed a granite cook island of Juperana Giallo with lots of sweeping movement. The installation was done 3 years ago and budget prohibited me from doing all the counters at the same time. Now, different part of the mountain, different color intensity, different patterns. This new selection seemed to be the closest in overall color combinations with a small "speck" pattern to compliment the original piece. testking 70-299 I also thought it might "seam" easier because the pattern is small and busy therfore requiring less stone. I'm so curious as to why you asked. Did I make a mistake??? Very Best

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I'm not familliar with Chef brand, but I just bought an Esther Willaims. They accept a archetypal that is rated to be partialy burried. It has extruded alluminum ancillary slats. Looking bound at the chef site, it looks like thier basin walls are jsut formed animate or alluminum. These are rated to be burried? What makes their bank so strong?

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Our opinion - based on our personal experience - is AGPool a much more cost effective option that traditional inground and while neither of our two pool were "rated" for sinking into the ground we partially sank both with no problems.

Or course, an aluminum or fiberglass AGPool is preferred to vinyl clad steel as they are less likely to fail and aren't likely to corrode/rust. Vinyl clad steel - specially if partially sunk into the ground - is going to corrode or rust - it's just a matter of time BUT aluminum or fiberglass panel AGPools will cost two to three times more than vinyl clad steel so part of your cost justification and cost analysis formula must include a realistic idea of how long you expect to live where you live and want to keep a pool.

We bought our second vinyl clad steel pool five years ago because, at that time, we could not find an aluminum AGPool that would allow an extended depth liner and the center depth of our 27 ft. AGPool is over 6 1/2 feet.

Our first steel AGPool lasted about 15 years. We sunk it about 1/2 way into the ground. Our installer, at our request, coated the outer wall with a thick black rubbery substance to help protect from moisture intrusion. After 15 yrs the pool was doing fine BUT or original liner was wrinkling and otherwise failing so we chose to just replace pool and liner and when we pulled out the old liner there was a ton of corrosion all around the pool wall - it never bothered us all those 15 years and we never knew it was there but corrosion was occuring out of sight.

That first pool cost us about $1200.00 in 1989 including the expanded depth liner - total price to installer including digging the sloping floor to center, adding center floor drain and extra water outlet and, best of all, putting in gunite floor to go under our liner was just $4500.00. A traditional inground concrete and gunite 27 ft. round pool would have cost well over $25k and then every six to eight years we would have had to pay about $6k to have the walls redone with new marcite.

To have our second steel pool installed onto our existing gunite floor and into our existing filtration system cost us about $3,000 including the cost of new pool and liner so our total cost including one pump replacement for over 20 years of perfect pool just $7500.00 which we consider very reasonable and we expect at least five more years from pool number two.

The SMARTEST thing we did was having the extra depth liner, extra center depth and inground type filter system with center main drain added - WORST THING, our opinion, with AGPools is the stock shallow depth which can be easily corrected with a bit of imagination and planning.

So, our opinion, AGPool a much more cost effective alternative to having a concrete monument poured into your backyard.

GoodLuck!!!

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