Ken in Kansas

Grandkids here the next three days. Will look at things after that. Thanks for the response. Ken in Kansas

G-e-e-e-z, Mike, what a slave driver! I thought I would at least have the Labor Day weekend off! 😜 Here is your update, however. Tub has been full for three days now - no leaks, the water level is not going down. I ran the jets just to make sure that there would be water in all the plumbing. Connected the circulation pump to an independent electrical source (an extension cord running to an outside outlet) and ran it for 24 hours. It appears to be running although somewhat hot to the touch. I can hear gurgling noises and feel a vibration when touching the pump. The noises and vibration stopped when I disconnected the pump this morning. The rest of the spa is electrically "off" (i.e. no heat, no jets) and has been since starting the "full tub/independent circulation pump tests". Over to you. Ken in Kansas

Thanks again, Mike. I am filling the tub, as I write this, to check again for leaks. I will let it stand for several days (not like it's being used extensively, you know 😉) and see what the status is at that point. I am comfortable working with electricity and make certain I don't go beyond my knowledge level. I am also very comfortable with a VOM so can check voltage at the box, also. I will try your suggestion to "power up" the pump "stand-alone" and will get back to you with results. I very well may end up as RDspaguy predicted, but I enjoy reasonable challenges. Ken in Kansas

Thanks for the response, Mike. Yes, the spa appears to hold water when filled and allowed to sit. I will check that once more before disposing of it. Can the circulation pump be tested outside of the spa to see if it is seizing? While searching this forum for information before posting my question, I did find mention of the capillaries in another Hot Springs post. Perhaps I can re-read that for possible "enlightenment" Ken in Kansas

Yes, Toto and Dorothy lived on the farm which may be the final resting place for the spa. Perhaps another tornado will relocate it at some point in time. Only thing I know about Canada is how it was named. Seems the folks living there could not agree on a name so they all got together and drew letters from a cloth bag containing all the letters of the alphabet, announcing each letter as it was drawn. It went like this - (first letter drawn) "C, eh?"; (second letter drawn) "N, eh?"; (third letter drawn) "D, eh?". Thus their country was named! 😄🤪 (A Canadian gentleman told me that story at a music festival I attended several years ago.) Ken in Kansas

Thanks, RD. Pretty much what I expected in the final analysis. My actions a few years back made sure it was FUBAR. So now a decent burial (in a ravine on a farm owned by a friend) and a few parting words (none of which can be included here) said over the "body" then on to bigger and better things. Again, your input is appreciated. Ken in Kansas

I have an o-l-d Hot Springs spa - manufactured (according to notations inside the pump area) 2/5/1987. I bought it second hand and it functioned great. A few (5-7) years ago, the cover decided to disintegrate and I quit using the spa. This was in the winter in Kansas. I drained the spa with the intent to replace/repair the cover the next spring. As often is the case, the repair/replacement of the cover never happened. This spring, we decided to put our house on the market and move closer to the grandchildren. Naturally, having a working spa would add value to the house so I decided to see if it was in working order. The insulation around the heater had deteriorated so I replaced that with expandable foam (after removing the heater from the spa), cut it to shape, wrapped the heater with metallic tape and reinstalled it. I cleaned the tub and filter. I filled the tub (after replacing the drain cap which had been left off since draining) and started the jets. Wonder of wonder, after sitting idle all those years, the pump worked and began pushing water through the jets. It also started pushing water through numerous leaks in the pump! I have since pretty much stopped all the jet pump leaks and have not noticed any others in the spa. Now, however, I am having issues with the heater/circulating pump. When I set the thermostat at the midway point (5 on my dial), I can hear the circulation pump start to work. Checking the pump one hour after starting it, I found it to still be working. Checking the pump after two hours, I found that it had stopped and the system (circulation pump, jets pump and heater) were electrically "dead" - nothing worked. I have done this several times as the spa/electronics seem to come back to life after several hours and pushing of reset buttons. On one occasion I was able to get it to last 5-6 hours by: Setting the thermostat to its lowest (i.e. the point where the "relay" first clicks on) Checking it and running the jets for several minutes on an hourly basis Increasing the thermostat each time it was checked It finally "died" once the maximum thermostat setting was reached. Usually, however, it "dies" somewhere within one and two hours of starting. I had a GFI outlet with reset buttons installed when I first put the spa in place. Each time it comes back to life, the GFI reset and spa reset buttons have been pressed. At this point, however, I don't know if the spa is causing its own "death" or if the GFI is the culprit nor do I have the knowledge of how to test/determine that. Any suggestions/ideas/advice/instructions would be appreciated. (Or maybe I'm just "beating a dead horse".) Thanks in advance. Ken in Kansas