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  1. Yes theres been a little bit (or more..) of redneck engineering with this pump!! I'm guessing it was removed and serviced for some reason in the past and the back cover broke or was lost. The relay and capacitor were tied on to some of the wood framing using zip ties that I disconnected to get a closer look and get these photos. Heres a photo of the back. Relays are connected with 3 solder points (circled in yellow) each on the back of the board. No visible discolorations or dark spots. If its a relay failure I'm guessing I will need to order a new control board? I'm located outside of the united states in an area where finding a spa pro is next to impossible 😄 Thanks for the help.
  2. Hoping to be able to delete one of my posts and read some responses in the future, thanks! For some reason I can access this post so I'll copy/paste it here: Howdy Pool Spa Forum, Thanks in advance for the help and I'll let you know a little about my problem. I I have a Hot Spring Hot Spot SX (2013) Model hooked up to a 115v panel with a 20A GFCI breaker on the cord. When powered on the display works fine. Temp reading on display shows 82 degrees which is accurate. I set it to heat to 100 and press the Jets button one time to bring on low speed jets. A few seconds after the jets kick on the red LED on the control board (its a Hawk 76840) that says "HEAT" illuminates red which I'm assuming is the board calling for heat, but the problem is no power is supplied to the heater. Using my volt meter I am getting 115V on the tab that controls the jets, but no voltage being delivered to the heater even when the board is calling for heat. If you look in the photo below the 2 short black wires connected to the heater element are connected to tabs under the heater relays and neither side is getting any reading. I have checked the heater pressure switch and it has continuity between the two terminals so I'm assuming that isn't the problem. I've tested the resistance of the heater element and get 15 Ohms which seems ok. I have inspected the front and back of the control board and dont see any signs of damage (burnt areas.. etc) and I looked closely especially around the 2 black heater relays. But still for the life of me I can't figure out why this heater wont get power. Is there a way to test the relays? Is there a way to jump the relays to get power to the heater? The pump is a Watkins wavemaster 6000 and has clearly been worked on. The back end (electrical side) is opened and and the run capacitor has been replaced. It seems like the capacitor on the top of the pump (is that the start capacitor?) is original, but I'm not sure. The pump seems unusually loud on high speed and sometimes will trip and the system will restart. On low speed the pump operates fine and will run for hours with no circulation issues. Perhaps the capacitor was switched with an improper replacement? Perhaps some of the pump wiring has been reconfigured incorrectly? It looks like the pump work was shoddy as the back casing holding the capacitor was never replaced. I inherited this tub when I purchased my house so I'm unsure of previous issues its had and what its service history is like. I would like to fix both issues but would honestly be fine if the pump worked on low speed as long as I got some heat. A new board is expensive and am a little reluctant to order a new one if I'm not completely sure thats the problem. Appreciate any advice you guys might have
  3. Howdy Pool Spa Forum, Thanks in advance for the help and I'll let you know a little about my problem. I I have a Hot Spring Hot Spot SX (2013) Model hooked up to a 115v panel with a 20A GFCI breaker on the cord. When powered on the display works fine. Temp reading on display shows 82 degrees which is accurate. I set it to heat to 100 and press the Jets button one time to bring on low speed jets. A few seconds after the jets kick on the red LED on the control board (its a Hawk 76840) that says "HEAT" illuminates red which I'm assuming is the board calling for heat, but the problem is no power is supplied to the heater. Using my volt meter I am getting 115V on the tab that controls the jets, but no voltage being delivered to the heater even when the board is calling for heat. If you look in the photo below the 2 short black wires connected to the heater element are connected to tabs under the heater relays and neither side is getting any reading. I have checked the heater pressure switch and it has continuity between the two terminals so I'm assuming that isn't the problem. I've tested the resistance of the heater element and get 15 Ohms which seems ok. I have inspected the front and back of the control board and dont see any signs of damage (burnt areas.. etc) and I looked closely especially around the 2 black heater relays. But still for the life of me I can't figure out why this heater wont get power. Is there a way to test the relays? Is there a way to jump the relays to get power to the heater? The pump is a Watkins wavemaster 6000 and has clearly been worked on. The back end (electrical side) is opened and and the run capacitor has been replaced. It seems like the capacitor on the top of the pump (is that the start capacitor?) is original, but I'm not sure. The pump seems unusually loud on high speed and sometimes will trip and the system will restart. On low speed the pump operates fine and will run for hours with no circulation issues. Perhaps the capacitor was switched with an improper replacement? Perhaps some of the pump wiring has been reconfigured incorrectly? It looks like the pump work was shoddy as the back casing holding the capacitor was never replaced. I inherited this tub when I purchased my house so I'm unsure of previous issues its had and what its service history is like. I would like to fix both issues but would honestly be fine if the pump worked on low speed as long as I got some heat. A new board is expensive and am a little reluctant to order a new one if I'm not completely sure thats the problem. Appreciate any advice you guys might have
  4. Howdy Pool Spa Forum, Thanks in advance for the help and I'll let you know a little about my problem. I I have a Hot Spring Hot Spot SX (2013) Model hooked up to a 115v panel with a 20A GFCI breaker on the cord. When powered on the display works fine. Temp reading on display shows 82 degrees which is accurate. I set it to heat to 100 and press the Jets button one time to bring on low speed jets. A few seconds after the jets kick on the red LED on the control board (its a Hawk 76840) that says "HEAT" illuminates red which I'm assuming is the board calling for heat, but the problem is no power is supplied to the heater. Using my volt meter I am getting 115V on the tab that controls the jets, but no voltage being delivered to the heater even when the board is calling for heat. If you look in the photo below the 2 short black wires connected to the heater element are connected to tabs under the heater relays and neither side is getting any reading. I have checked the heater pressure switch and it has continuity between the two terminals so I'm assuming that isn't the problem. I've tested the resistance of the heater element and get 15 Ohms which seems ok. I have inspected the front and back of the control board and dont see any signs of damage (burnt areas.. etc) and I looked closely especially around the 2 black heater relays. But still for the life of me I can't figure out why this heater wont get power. Is there a way to test the relays? Is there a way to jump the relays to get power to the heater? The pump is a Watkins wavemaster 6000 and has clearly been worked on. The back end (electrical side) is opened and and the run capacitor has been replaced. It seems like the capacitor on the top of the pump (is that the start capacitor?) is original, but I'm not sure. The pump seems unusually loud on high speed and sometimes will trip and the system will restart. On low speed the pump operates fine and will run for hours with no circulation issues. Perhaps the capacitor was switched with an improper replacement? Perhaps some of the pump wiring has been reconfigured incorrectly? It looks like the pump work was shoddy as the back casing holding the capacitor was never replaced. I inherited this tub when I purchased my house so I'm unsure of previous issues its had and what its service history is like. I would like to fix both issues but would honestly be fine if the pump worked on low speed as long as I got some heat. A new board is expensive and am a little reluctant to order a new one if I'm not completely sure thats the problem. Appreciate any advice you guys might have
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