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I am not sure about who Nature 2 is. The product I use is called Wailani. I use it on my pool and do not own a spa. And if I did I would NEVER sit in a heated chlorinated body of water. The fumes from chlorine are very damaging to the lungs which are even more intense in a heated spa!!! And it is even worse in an enclosed room!!!! Also isn't Cyanuric Acid a derivative of Cyanide? Pardon me for cutting and pasteing the rest but I don't have time to post and would be interested to here how you respond the harmful effects of chlorine when combined with the organic matter in the pool. Pools have to be kept clean to be used safely, but the chlorine used in many pools and inhaled or absorbed through the skin in large amounts has been reported to have some possible bad effects. The International Agency for Research on Cancer has determined that dioxins, furans, and trihalmenthanes (similar in structure to PCBs) can arise when chlorine comes into contact with organic matter such as leaves and dirt, and can cause a possible increased risk of cancer; possible damage to the liver, kidneys, and the nervous system; and possible increased risk of birth defects.[13][14][1] A study from Belgium's Catholic University of Louvain found that chlorine could be linked to childhood asthma (in 2-3 percent of cases.)[15] Chlorine may also cause skin and eye irritations and longer-term respiratory problems like “swimmer’s asthma.” The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has reports and recommendations regarding chlorine.[16] Silver is now widely used in hospitals for it's antibacterial properties. Chlorine may be used to clean surfaces, but it is NEVER used on anything that actually comes in contact with any open wounds or orafices. One bacteria that is resistant to chlorine is legionella, which causes legionnaires disease. At one time I did do a lot of reasearch on the harmful effects of chlorine. When I posted I never expected a response but I don't mind. It may take me a while to respond but I hope we can keep this dialog open. Maybe we can both learn something!

Dont you use some kind of oxidizer? What chemicals did you have to buy? I too am an copper-silver ionizaton fan. I think it is important to have silver with the ionization because it is more efficient to kill bacteria and virus in a timely manner. One person (Chemguy?) posted on one of these forums that with copper only ionization bacteria can float in the water for up to an hour. I was told that silver did the same thing is a few minutes. I have had my same ionization unit for about 20 years now with no problems. I just joined today and posted somewhere else about my ionization. I don't want to repeat myself too much but I wanted to answer your question. I oxidize with chlorine about every 2 weeks, but that depends on how many people and animals have used the pool. I only pour in chlorine and nothing else, so it dissapates in a few hours and then I am chlorine free for the rest of the time. I did use potassium monopersulfate, but started using chlorine because it was cheaper and it seemed to do the trick for oxidizing. I am not sure if the potassium monopersulfate is better. I was hoping to get information here. Someone also told me about hydrogen peroxide, but at this point I am not sure how to use it. I seem to be fine with the chlorine, since it is only in my pool water for a few hours. I just arrange my swimming time accordingly.

Next time some one wants to buy a system like this they should look into a copper-silver ionization unit. The silver is a far more efficient bacteriacide, anti-viral, antifungal. Be sure the bars contain a substantial amount of silver, (you can ask the manufacterer what % is in their bars). I have had the same copper and silver ionization unit for about 20 years now. The name of the company is Wailani. I oxidize with about a gallon of chlorine about once every two weeks. This amount will vary depending on how many people swam in the pool and if my dog has jumped into it (when it is hot he does like to go in!). Since I only use chlorine and nothing else it usually all dissapates within a few hours. I used to use potassium mono persulfate (sp?) but to save money I found chlorine did the same thing and in only stays in the water for a few hours and then I am chlorine free for the rest of the time! My son wanted to put and Ecosmarte system in but my pool and spa reapair guy talked him out of it and said that he has had to replace a few. He said it was a company that spends most of its money on marketing and franchises than it does on its actual product. He also stated that most people that purchase an Ecosmarte franchise have little experience about sanitzing pool water except for what Ecosmarte has taught them.