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We have now had our Pacific Calypso tub for 5 months now and are still loving it. We are in it every day and the sports jet package is still working like a charm after hiking biking or soccer. The bromine generator and ozone is still keeping the water cystal clear after 5 months and all We have to add is Ph decreaser now and again as the Ph tends to rise. This could be due to aeration?
One thing we have learned is to turn off the jets you are not using if you want to have an ultimate massage in the seat you are sitting in. With the two speed pumps this is not neccessary but sometimes you want to feel as if someone is walking on your back.
Let me know how you like your spa and whether you have learned any tricks. We have also found that it is almost too energy efficient. On a hot day the temp will not go down. I think the circ pump in the equipment compartment keep the spa at the same temp. We have use broom sticks to raise the spa cover on both sides and open up tyhe pump compartment to allow total ventilation and this brings the temp down for a cooler night soak.
I look forward to hearing your comments good or bad. We have an excellent dealer and I still have to get around to sending him my thank you and let him knoew how much we love our tub and the service he has provided.
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there are many other options out there such as hotspring, sundance, arctic, beachcomber to name a few.
link to spa dealers is here
http://www.poolandspa.com/page958.htm
Go to the manufactures website type in your postal code and see if there is a dealer near your property.
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This site still not right but it is much better than it was a month ago. At least I am improving my typing skills.
Gist of the previous email was. Coleman tubs are only 35" deep. I am 6 feet tall and they were to shallow. Even though this is for your rental property I would at least dry fit the tub before purchasing or go for the free wet test.
Some deeper economical tubs in no particular order
are Jacuzzi 200 series (37" deep), Pacific Saturna (40" deep) and Caldera c series (38" deep).Call all of your local suppliers and see if they can offer something within your budget. You can save the final negotiation till you are down to your final 2 tubs. Your dealer will be very important so see which one you are most comfortable with and do a BBB check. If there is a problem you want good dealer service so you do not have to constantly go to your rental property.
Good luck
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We are looking at $5,000 to $6,000 for a spa plus installation. The company said they would charge us $700 for installation on a second story deck (they need a crane). The Spa prices are good and the install price is excellent. I just need to pick the correct spa that would last under the strain of renters.
We were offered a new $6,000 Gulf Coast spa for $5,000 but the installation was going to be $1,500.
The M6 has a UV light filter to help clean the water. Thanks for the 38" suggestion.
The coleman spas are only 35" deep. I am 6 feet tall and we dry tested them and they were too shallow.
Here are a few deeper economical spas. Jacuzzi 200 series(37" deep) Pacific Saturna(40" deep) Caldera c-series(38" deep). I would check to see what other spas are in your area. Call the dealer tell them your max. budget and see if they can help you. You can negotiate after you have narrowed your selection.
Even though this is a for a rental I would at least dry test to see how it woulfd fit a range of peoples heights.
Good luck
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What is the maximum price you are willing to spend? I would also check out Jacuzzi, Sundance, Hotsprings, Caldera, Arctic and Pacific spas to name a few.
You will also want some sort of chemical dispenser such as spa frog etc. I would stay away from the floating puck dispenser in a rental situation. We have a salt water genesis system that is fairly maintainence free but I believe that is only available with Arctic and Pacific.
All of the tubs listed above have good filtration. You will probably want a 24 hour circ pump and ozone to compliment your sanitizer system.
I would also get a tub that is at least 38" deep so it will fit a variety of people.
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If you are going to the Langley store call first as Brian may have sold all his spas in the last home show. He may be able to get you a deal on a 07 from the factory if it is available. You may be able to get a better price than $10,000 as I believe you just wanted the cedar skirt.
I believe the prices quoted were list price. We wet tested so many spas that the numbers all blurred together.
Good Luck. You can also go direct to the factory store too.
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The advantage of the genesis system is you can set the dial where you want. If you have a high bather load just crank the dial up a bit. With the Ozone I do not think you will have a problem achieving the required bromine concentration. We have been averaging with friends about 10 bather hours per week and the dial is at 5. The dial goes to 10 but if you pay extra you can get a dial that goes to 11.
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Wet test them. We wet tested a dynasty and found it to be very shallow. Wet test before you buy as this forum repeats over and over.
Good luck
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I am a little aggrevated because I feel that I did get good deals on two tubs ($8900 for an Envoy they said was new $500 off discount and $8500 for a Sundance Cameo which is a great deal from the Arctic dealer that is now selling Sundance as well). But the problem is I am not entirely happy with either of those two choices. I hated the Envoy. The Cameo was nice, but the headrests bothered me.
I haven't made a decision yet, although my electrician has started the process of running the electric so I am definitely getting something at some point. Maybe I have to show these people that I am really a "serious buyer". Maybe i'll take a picture of my electrical hookup and bring it in. ;-)
The Arctic dealer is really hot for my business. But I dunno. Are there any decent aftermarket headrest "pillows" out there?
There are weighted pillows out there that in my opinion are more comfortable than any of the spa pillows as you can sit up straighter and rest your head against the pillow. Once our pillows degrade we will probably replace with the weighted pillow. Do not abandon your spa choice due to the pillows. Ask almost any dealer and they will remove the pillow and replace it with weighted pillows that they usually have on hand. no dealer will let you out of the store if your only issue is the pillow.
Good luck
Link is here. Poola and spa I want a commision
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As per my PM we bought our Pacific from an outlet store in Langley. Great dealership. I would have to look back at my other posts but I believe the pricing was as follows
Base price $7400
Select package $799 massage seat upgrade, stainless and cedarlite skirt
Power $1499
Circ pump $399 We got the genesis system so this came with the price for that system
this is about $10,000 so the your price is not that far off but the above it is a list price. The select package which includes the massage therapy jets stainless steel and cedarlite skirt is part of the $799. If you have the cover lifter staits etc your price is not that far off. If you do not have the whole select package have the dealer throw that in and offer a maximum of $10,000
Are there other spas to wet test in the area. $10,000 will buy you a range of excellent quality tubs and offer you some more negotiation room with the Pacific dealership.
It has been eight weeks and we are still loving out tub. Water is still crystal clear and the jets are still pounding. I am tired today as last nights soccer game was a hard slog and a half hour soak with the sports package on melt and a beverage was required to ease the aching muscles. It was late by the time I crawled out of the tub.
Good luck with your hunt.
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I'm looking at a Pacific Oceana or Calypso.
I saw in one of Waterboy's posts that base pricing for the 90" Pacifics is $7400 in BC. I've PMed him to find out if this included any extras like cover lifter, stair, delivery, etc. I received a quote of $8600 base including cover lifter, stair, chemicals and delivery. The dealer told me $7400 is likely the factory store price and they need to charge more. I can see that they need to cover transportation to their dealership but this is a pretty big discrepancy.
I'm trying to determine if pricing offered by this dealer is fair. I'm still working with them but pricing I have to date is $10, 500 including Power Pack, Massage Therapy jets, upgrade to thicker cover, cover lifter, stair, water products and delivery. This doesn't include taxes or electrical set up which is about $750.
My quote seems pretty high given that it doesn't include the System 3, the circ pump, or any waterfalls/lighting upgrades...and that's compared to Wildtrack's quote which he/she feels is high. Any opinions as to whether the $10, 500 quote is fair? I'm also interested in the circ pump- what's a fair price for that upgrade?
Pricing from anyone else looking at Pacific 90" tubs from dealer other than factory store in Surrey BC would be much appreciated.
As per my PM we bought our Pacific from an outlet store in Langley. Great dealership. I would have to look back at my other posts but I believe the pricing was as follows
Base price $7400
Select package $799 massage seat upgrade, stainless and cedarlite skirt
Power $1499
Circ pump $399 We got the genesis system so this came with the price for that system
this is about $10,000 so the your price is not that far off but the above it is a list price. The select package which includes the massage therapy jets stainless steel and cedarlite skirt is part of the $799. If you have the cover lifter staits etc your price is not that far off. If you do not have the whole select package have the dealer throw that in and offer a maximum of $10,000
Are there other spas to wet test in the area. $10,000 will buy you a range of excellent quality tubs and offer you some more negotiation room with the Pacific dealership.
It has been eight weeks and we are still loving out tub. Water is still crystal clear and the jets are still pounding. I am tired today as last nights soccer game was a hard slog and a half hour soak with the sports package on melt and a beverage was required to ease the aching muscles. It was late by the time I crawled out of the tub.
Good luck with your hunt.
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We have the genesis salt water system in our spa and so far we are loving it. Crystal claer water easy to maintain and no smell while in the tub or on our suits.
It is tough to get answers from long term users. We bought our spa as the wet test floor model and the water had been in it for 10 months. We have had the spa for 7 weeks.
We also find the the PH can tend to rise slowly but that could also be from sweat, or bubbling of the water from the air injection a swe have been informed. We add 14g Ph down every 2 to 3 days so no big deal.
Without any of the solids associated with spa frog, pucks etc the TDS is low and this I believe eliminates any cloudy water, foaming etc. Right now we love ours but time will tell. The system is warrantied for 5 years.
I am hoping we can get a year between tub refills. Your dealer should be understand the system but if not the manual is very easy to follow.
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The other similarity between beachcomber and pacific is you can swap jets of the same diameter back and forth. This is a good feature if you have a deep muscle ache and you want to switch the pulsating jet for the deep muscle blaster jet.
The jacuzzi and pacific tubs both had great 2 speed pumps that were very quiet. The jacuzzi definately offered one of the better massages but did not have the sport jet package that the Pacific did. If the jacuzzi fit we would probably have bought it.
As we have both said before wet test. you have picked 2 good spas and make your decision after the wet test.
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We wet tested both brands of spas and both had their own positives but they just did not fit. We found the Jacuzzi brand to be more economical for the features that you received. We would have bought either spa but they did not fit right. Both spas our very well built good quality spas that have great jets.
You have to wet test to be sure.
just to muddy the waters here is another Canadian brand
http://www.pacificspas.ca/index.htm
good luck
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the site was too busy and lost my first post so I will be brief this time. you will as a minimum need to add post and beams near your house and possibly a central beam and posts. Here is a website for post beam and joist design. Your tub will weigh approx 100#/square foot so you will have to reduce spans as some charts are based on 40#/square foot.
http://www.ideas-for-deck-designs.com/deck_beam.html
a local small engineering firm may also look at it for you for around $300.00.
Good luck
PS here is a better link from the same website
http://www.ideas-for-deck-designs.com/deck...d_capacity.html
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I am surprised that the Coast spa is that expensive. The Coast was at least $2000 to $3000 cheaper than the Arctic when we wet tested. We wet tested both Arctic and Coast and liked Arctic better. The coast jets diverter valves ect did not seem to be as well built and I think I broke a diverter valve during the Coast wet test when I turned it.
With the prices being the same I would definately go with the Arctic. See if the Arctic dealer can help you with the price or a store credit to sway your opinion. Someone else advised that you could get a free northern lights upgrade by going to the Arctic site and printing out a coupon
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Be careful regarding putting outdoor wiring just under the siding. To meet code in Canada and I am sure it is the same in the states it must be buried 18" below ground in an approved conduit or appropriate non conduit wire.
You can run your 1" conduit below ground before hand as cplarson suggests and bury it. Make sure that you have run a pull line through the conduit so your electician call pull the wires through. We did this for our tub install.
You can have your electrician come over and he will let you know what is required.
Sorry, should have been more clear. Mine is still run in conduit, which is what makes it meet code.
I was told by my electrician that I could not run the conduit just under the siding as it was still considered to be exposed and could be damaged. He is a friend and I just think he wanted me to dig 70 feet of 18" deep trench
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Be careful regarding putting outdoor wiring just under the siding. To meet code in Canada and I am sure it is the same in the states it must be buried 18" below ground in an approved conduit or appropriate non conduit wire.
You can run your 1" conduit below ground before hand as cplarson suggests and bury it. Make sure that you have run a pull line through the conduit so your electician call pull the wires through. We did this for our tub install.
You can have your electrician come over and he will let you know what is required.
The electrician is coming tomorrow. Is there anything important i should ask him as well?
If you are going to run the conduit see what he wants you to do near the Main panel. He may want you to cap off just above grade and he will finish the conduit to the box. If it is being inspected he may not want the trench buried. The contractor can usualy give you a better deal on the conduit than the price from your local building store. He may even give you a free bottle of cement. If he is a good electrical contractor he will explain everything that is necessary for the run from panel to tub.
if you have any other questions after you have talked to your electrician post them as there is a lot of help here and the forum seems to be running at normal speed again.
Good luck
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Be careful regarding putting outdoor wiring just under the siding. To meet code in Canada and I am sure it is the same in the states it must be buried 18" below ground in an approved conduit or appropriate non conduit wire.
You can run your 1" conduit below ground before hand as cplarson suggests and bury it. Make sure that you have run a pull line through the conduit so your electician call pull the wires through. We did this for our tub install.
You can have your electrician come over and he will let you know what is required.
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The $9500 was for the base 8 foot model with 33 jets. You can probably get a better deal on the options. The place we went to offered 50% off on the options. That will reduce your price to $10,945. It depends on how bad the dealer wants to sell if they are the only game in town. Offer $10,500 and try to get a $250 store credit and see what happens. If that does not work get your best price and see what you can get for a store credit as this does not cost the dealer as much as a straight cash discount.
Your other option is to go out of town and have a different brand of spa trucked in but you will want to determine what costs there will be for any service calls.
As stated before the Arctic is a good brand so you could do worse for the only dealer in town.
good luck
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We were quoted $9500 for a summit signature so $9500 seems high for a 7 foot spa. You are up north so I am sure there are additional delivery costs. the option prices also seemed a bit high but not 2 bad with the $1000 discount.
If there are other dealers check them out too. The arctic is a well built spa so it is definately a good choice oif there are no other dealers in the area.
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Just spent 10 minutes 2 plunking out a reply and the system crapped out and lost it when I tried to post. We think the Genesis system in the system 3 is great . 5 weeks and still crystal clear water with little or no management. 4 shocks in 5 weeks and stable bromine at 3 to 5 ppm with a fairly high bather load.
Base prices in BC are $6700 for 84", $7400 for 90" and more for the 93" endeavour. Must haves are the massage seat therapy upgrade, the power dome the circ pump and cedarlite skirt. The sports package is also great.
There is more info in this forum from my previous posts which you can look for with the search function. Any other info PM me as I am getting tired of the system crapping out when I post.
Last thing is to wet test many tubs before you make your final decision as fit is VERY important.
Good luck
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From what you've listed so far I'd look closely at Arctic, Hot Spring, Jacuzzi and Sundance.I saw a few more today. Went to the Coleman dealer. Spas were "ok" but I don't know if I was that impressed.
They had a 471 for $7500 and a 481 for $7600. 5% discount if I paid cash.
I saw some Cal Spas that looked decent although I didn't get a chance to get pricing (they were very busy). They had a A857L and a A844L that both looked nice.
They also had a Sundance Maxxus which I think would be a little pricey.
They also had a vew Bahama Spas. Anyone heard of this brand? Saw a Nassau II ST and Freeport I spa. Didn't get pricing yet on those.
I would agree that the Arctic, Hotspring, Jacuzzi and Sundance are good choices. Wth the Sundance if you want a lounger I would look at the Cameo. The Maxxus is a large tub. Wet test and see if you even want a lounger. I thought I wanted a lounger and after wet testing we decided against the lounger.
With the Cal spas upgrade to the Classic series as the lower level series have cheap jets.
As for wet testing if your wife wants privacy the dealers in our area offered to open privately for us before of after hours. We did not care so we just hopped in. Remember that you are spending around $8,000 plus for your spa so the dealer will try to accomodate you.
good luck
Pacific Spas Calypso Still Great
in Portable Hot Tubs & Spas
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It has been a while since I have posted. Even though Pacific spas is no longer in business I just wanted to let everyone know that we still love our tub and it is still running great after 21 months.
After the Vancouver Canucks win tonight I enjoyed a nice cigar and a great Ardbeg single malt scotch during my great spa massage tonight. The original spa seller assured us that the pumps and heater warranties will still be honored by the pump or heater manufacturers if they fail. If anything fails we should only have to pay for the installation as he will make a claim against the manufacturers for the pump or heater as they are still under warranty.
Luongo had a shut out tonight and is ready to make Canada proud and take on the world when the Olympics begin in Vancouver. Enjoy your hot tubs as we are still enjoying ours.