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  1. Just a note, we have a 480 and our cover fits OK, not good not great but OK. The sides don't come down as much as they do in the pic posted earlier in this thread. The area where the cover hinges leaks steam. We added a *solar cover to create a better seal against the shell. No steam leaks now. Basically it seems to me that the whole cover is slightly undersized, maybe by a 1/2 inch on all sides. You can push down on the cover at the higher end of the tub and feel that it isn't making contact with the shell. Perhaps I have a cover made on a Monday, or maybe it's just designed wrong.

    *- solar cover, not applicable under the cover or where prohibited.

  2. We use a "solar blanket" on our spa. It has nothing to do with solar energy or solar anything, it's just bubble wrap. The reason we use it is that our lid has a considerable gap on both sides where it hinges. The 1st cold night we had the spa we noticed steam pouring from these gaps. We purchased a solar cover that actually covers the whole top. We stretch it over the top and then lower the lid. The lid holds it in place and seals against the shell. No more steam leakage. I also think that this will help to prolong the life of my lid as vapors are getting to the underside. As far as chems I have had problems dialing in the Chlorine/Bromine levels and getting the Ph right, but I attributed this to inexperience having only had the spa for a little over a month. I guess it could be the solar cover. Come summer when I won't need it we'll see.

    Jacuzzi J-480

  3. I don't know if this helps but we just bought a 2007 J480 with no stereo and no ozone for $10,500 in Maryland back in November.

    Did that price include tax ?

    $10,500.00 was for the spa, steps, start up chems and delivery. Tax was extra, 5% here in MD. I've learned through the internet that things cost differently throughout the country, why I don't know but they do. Maybe it's delivery surcharges from California where the spa was made.

  4. I don't know if this helps but we just bought a 2007 J480 with no stereo and no ozone for $10,500 in Maryland back in November.

    So far we have had some minor issues with the spa:

    There was a "leak" of one of the air intake ports, apparently it had fallen loose during shipping.

    see thread:

    http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.ph...c=10065&hl=

    The top doesn't actually seat itself on the rim of the spa, the area where the lid hinges leaked steam like the smoke stacks on the Titanic. We added one of those "solar" spa covers between the lid and the spa and now no heat escapes from under the lid.

    The installers failed to set our jumpers for the 60amp service so we didn't know why we couldn't have heat with both pumps on. After reading the manual I figured it out. This is not a manufacturer issue but something that you should know.

    The jets turn themselves off very easily. You can manually turn them to adjust the amount of flow but they are loose enough that every time you get in you have to "re-open" them. I would like it better if they were a little more stiffer in their turning.

    All in all I would say that we do like the spa, it was the only one we found with both a lounger and foot dome. The minor problems that we have had have been just that, minor. But this is a NEW tub, in my opinion there shouldn't be any problems with a product from a 50 year old company. Hopefully you'll experience none of what we did and if you do, now you know how we handled them.

    Happy Soaking.

  5. No matter how high I set the temp, 102,103 or 104 when I check it it's at 101. Granted, it is harder for it to heat while we are using it but when I took the cover off of it earlier it should have been at 103, since I set it there a day before (we were planning on getting in but didn't and I never changed the temp). While in it last night the "heating" symbol was on the display, the temp was set at 103 but it never climbed past 101.

    Jacuzzi 480 60amp service with the jumpers set for heat/2 pumps.

  6. This is something I was thinking of as well. We will be walking on a wooden deck back in to our house as well. How about something like this:

    http://www.matsmatsmats.com/commercial-ind...k-step-mat.html

    That's an idea. Certainly a lot less expensive than the heated ones. I think it would prevent ice accumulation, but my concern would be how to shovel snow off of it. Wouldn't the shovel just keep getting "stuck" on it? Maybe a loose shoveling, then use a broom for the remainder?

    David

    Black ice and snow are 2 different things. Snow on that mat proabably wouldn't be slippery, snow in general isn't slippery. Hopefully the water would pass through so that it wouldn't ice up. Whatever you decide on, let us know. I may do the same.

  7. On another note.

    That night after the installation of the spa/electrical hook up we tested all the spas features. Everything worked as expected. I reset the clock and went to the store. When we left, the spa's water temperature was in the low 60's. When we got home, about 2 hours later, we went outside to see how much the temp had climbed. The new temp was in the mid 70's. Ok, we went back in and eventually went to bed. The next morning I went outside eager to see the temp on our new spa. Well imagine my suprise, it wasn't on, the GFCI disconnect breaker had tripped. No time to fool with it now, I have an hour drive to get to work.

    When I got home I went straight for the yard. I flipped the breaker from off to on only to have it trip instantly. I logged on here and started reading. I knew that I didn't have a wire problem or a moisture problem. The tub had run perfectly the day before so I knew it wasn't a current draw problem. After reading a post on here about disconnecting the load neutral I gave that a try. I hit the juice and the spa kicked to life. I guessed that this was a sign of a bad GFCI. I left the load neutral unplugged and enjoyed my "brand new-11K-had it 2 days and haven't used it yet-spa." When I got home the next day I replaced the GFCI, reconnected the load neutral and fired it up. This was yesterday and when I got home today, she was still on. Great success!

    The moral:

    never assume the crap you buy isn't crap

  8. Service guy came out today. They said "that this is the intake for the air system and it must have fallen loose because it was below the water line and that my water level was too high. He afixed it higher up in the cabinet, thus placing it above the water line." Ok, this is what they've told me over the phone, I haven't made it out there to see exactly what he did yet, hopefully that's what it was. I filled my tub to just above the highest jet/below the head rest - as per instructions-. I didn't have it filled too high.

    Does that upper piece sit directly below an 'air' valve lever on the spa topside? If so does the valve properly allow and shut off air to the corresponding jet?

    Some do sit above the water-line, but they use check valves to prevent leaking. The one on your tub sure looks like it should be connected to the upper piece.

    No it does not sit below an air vent. It's some kind of air check valve. When it needs air it sucks inward pulling the black baffle in. When not, the pressure of the water is supposed to push it back sealing it off. I guess by being below the water line it couldn't handle the amount of water/pressure and that made it drip. The leak wasn't overwhelming but a leak none-the-less. I was more concerned about the potential damage to the insullation and general interior area then the amout of water lost.

  9. Service guy came out today. They said "that this is the intake for the air system and it must have fallen loose because it was below the water line and that my water level was too high. He afixed it higher up in the cabinet, thus placing it above the water line." Ok, this is what they've told me over the phone, I haven't made it out there to see exactly what he did yet, hopefully that's what it was. I filled my tub to just above the highest jet/below the head rest - as per instructions-. I didn't have it filled too high.

  10. Jacuzzi 480

    Location is under the waterfall side. A 3/4 tubing that has a white plastic connector on it, its dripping(overflowing) from here. There is a matching "connector" above, it doesn't look like they should be connected, but I don't know. It leaks with nothing running. We noticed it after fill up and before we started it. I called for service and I'm waiting for them to call me back. Here are pics of what is leaking.

    leakingpiece1.jpg

    leakingpiece2.jpg

    leakingpiece3.jpg

    leakingpiece4.jpg

  11. My spa is about a month away and I'm trying to do some of the electtical set-up stuff on my own to save money. The dealer recommended 60 amps so that we can run both pumps and the heater. Here is what I plan on doing:

    installing the pvc conduit with pull string

    mounting the disconnect 5' from the tub locale

    running the liquid tight from the disconnect to the tub area with pull string

    My hope is that the electrician can just show up, run the wire and hook it all up. My questions are

    1. did I buy the right disconnect? I bought a 60 amp gfci breaker box ( it's called a spa package from Lowes) I think it has to be 60 amps at the main panel, but does the box outside have to be 60 as well?

    here's a link to what I bought:

    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=prod...63-UG412RMW260P

    2. is there a limit to the length of the liquid tight I can run? If so I'll have to run more pvc to a box closer then liquid tight from it

    3. should I buy and pre run the wire? if so how would I find out which guage, for both the main run and the run to the tub? from the main panel to the disconnect it's about 50'

    It's a Jacuzzi 480, and we live north of Baltimore where it does get pretty cold in winter. I plan on using a certified electrician to do the hook ups, but if I can run some of the stuff myself I can save money on labor and possible mark-up.

  12. We wound up buying a 480 for 3 main reasons. 1, it was the only spa (in our area) with both a lounger and a foot massage dome. 2, it has a seat at the end of the lounger and 3, my wife didn't float out of the lounger. Our decision was between the 480 and the Sundance models. Originally Hotspring was a strong contender until the wet test where my wife floated. I also wasn't enamored with the moto-massage. The combo of foot massage and lounger was what won the 480 over the Sundance models. I think you'll be happy with whichever one you get, especially if you never come back on here, lol. In the Baltimore area we got our 480 for $10,500.00 with no oz and no radio. As soon as it's delivered I'll post pics.

  13. I understand wanting to get the best deal but there are other ways to get a good deal then goto 3 salesman of the same company. Please tell me the 3rd store didnt have to fill the tub or waste any time with you. Were you honest about having seen the tub in the other stores previously or did you pretend you had never shopped for the tub before? Sorry if this comes off rude but no one who buys a tub would work for free, but they expect salespeople to...and now 2 salespeople just had all there time wasted. Have had that happen before were I did ALL the work and got screwed out of deal because my co-worker didnt have to do anything but drop below my price to steal my deal. Its just unethical in my opinion.

    Come on here, do research do what you have to do to find the best price and use negotiation skill to get a good deal, not screw 2 salespeople and their families.

    not trying to offend you but this gets under my skin

    Store #1, they didn't have a 480 to look at, quoted us $12,500.

    Store #2, they had a 465 wet and no 480 but were around the corner from work so we went in ayway, quoted us $11,500

    Store #3 had the 480 wet, we tested and liked it, they quoted us $14,500

    /\ What he said.

    The 1st store sent me to the 2nd store because he didn't have the model I wanted to see. Store #2 sent me to store #3 so I could wet test the model I wanted. Store #3 was aware of my whole journey. None of them were aware of what each of them quoted me.

    Btw, I'm not offended.

  14. It looks like we're leaning towards the Jacuzzi 480. We've wet tested a bunch of spas and this one has the size, lounge and foot massage features that we like. In our area (Baltimore) there is one dealer for Jacuzzi that has 3 stores. Amazingly enough all 3 stores have different prices for the same spa.

    Store #1, they didn't have a 480 to look at, quoted us $12,500.

    Store #2, they had a 465 wet and no 480 but were around the corner from work so we went in ayway, quoted us $11,500

    Store #3 had the 480 wet, we tested and liked it, they quoted us $14,500

    Obviously there is a mark-up, the question is how much? The logical choice is to go to store #2 and haggle there. Any suggestions on price haggling or even on this model versus others?

    Just for the record we tested the following models:

    Hotspring Vista (wet) nice but my wife floated in the lounger, no foot massage

    Hotspring Vanguard (wet) nice but no lounger and small

    Sundance Optima (wet) big spa, excellent foot massager, no lounger

    Sundance Cameo (dry) no wet test is hard to review, felt nice dry but who knows, also no foot massager

    Sundance Altamar (wet) father-in-law's spa, nice but no foot massage

    Jacuzzi 480 (wet) big spa with ok foot massager and a lounger

    Again any opinions are welcome.

    Homerandpooh,

    I recently purchased a pre-owned Serena Bay by Dimension One and absolutely LOVE it!!!! If you have a Dimension One dealer near you make sure you check out some of their spas in the Bay series and Reflection series. You may really like the Nautilus Chairman or Californian (Reflect series). Nautilus has a foot massage , but no lounger. Also check out the Serena Bay and Lotus Bay in the Bay Series. They are a high quality innovative company that stands behind their products. Always remember the higher end tubs have higher margins....more room for negotiation. You would be very surprised at the amount many tubs are marked up! They are worse than cars because they do not sell in high volume so dealers need the higher margins to stay alive.

    I don't know how I got along without a spa for so long. I sleep so much better after a nice evening soak under the stars. It's a GREAT way to end your day!!!

    Anyway good luck with your search!!

    Paul B)

    Paul,

    We went with Jacuzzi because it has the lounge and the foot jet dome. The D1's also had that ugly blue tile embedded in them. The Bay series didn't have anything that we liked or could afford (Amore Bay).

  15. It looks like we're leaning towards the Jacuzzi 480. We've wet tested a bunch of spas and this one has the size, lounge and foot massage features that we like. In our area (Baltimore) there is one dealer for Jacuzzi that has 3 stores. Amazingly enough all 3 stores have different prices for the same spa.

    Store #1, they didn't have a 480 to look at, quoted us $12,500.

    Store #2, they had a 465 wet and no 480 but were around the corner from work so we went in ayway, quoted us $11,500

    Store #3 had the 480 wet, we tested and liked it, they quoted us $14,500

    Obviously there is a mark-up, the question is how much? The logical choice is to go to store #2 and haggle there. Any suggestions on price haggling or even on this model versus others?

    Just for the record we tested the following models:

    Hotspring Vista (wet) nice but my wife floated in the lounger, no foot massage

    Hotspring Vanguard (wet) nice but no lounger and small

    Sundance Optima (wet) big spa, excellent foot massager, no lounger

    Sundance Cameo (dry) no wet test is hard to review, felt nice dry but who knows, also no foot massager

    Sundance Altamar (wet) father-in-law's spa, nice but no foot massage

    Jacuzzi 480 (wet) big spa with ok foot massager and a lounger

    Again any opinions are welcome.

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