Brulan1
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d1 and Marquis have some of the worst ratings, and essential spas has a 10...lol
haha go figure....
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Well, they all go through an extensive audit.. it's not a title given out freely
Now THAT I believe!
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HAHA that went over my head @ first. Good Eye RRRRRRRRR!
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I would recommend checking out www.spasearch.org's Certified and Approved section to see the best ratings!
I'm sorry Crystal, but any "Best Of" list that includes Thermospas (133 complaints in the last 36 months according to the Better Business Bureau) or CalSpa (75 complaints in the last 36 months) loses any semblance of credibility, in my opinion.
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I would have to agree with that one.
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Im sorry, I still dont agree. If the spa is at 100 or 90 and its 30 degrees outside, its still going to drop at near the same rate regardless, the curve isnt that steep. Once the spa has cooled to the new setting your still paying very close to the same amount to maintain 90 as you are 100 AND you still need to heat it 10-14 degrees to use it.
10-14 degrees, depending on the kW of the heater 1.5-6.0 for most home use spas, can take anywhere from 2-6 hours of continuous use of your most expensive component to get up to using temp.
But, and lets make some assumptions here, if it takes 8 hours for it to cool that 10 degrees from 100 to 90. Theres 8 hours of no heater use. Once 90 is reached you are correct, very minumal difference to maintain 90 or 100. Now lets talk about that reheat time of 2-6 hours. If it is 2 with a 5.5-6 KW heater then how much would the heater run to maintain 100 during those 8 or so hours of cooling, versus no heater use when the temp was allowed to drop to 90?
There's alot going on here and as I said for the few pennys saved either way, if we can afford a spa we deserve to have it ready for use at any time. We work hard enough for a few pennys to not matter. Next time you go out to the bar, have one drink less and your saving more!
That is an affirmative!
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Is it just me, or are there problems posting today?
Its you that just posted.
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Yeah, I thought it would be cool to dress up the forums a bit
oooo pretty
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I would go directly to the manufacturer, and let them know if your issues can't be resolved you intend to report them to Better Business Bureau
Before you go ahead and do that, ask to speak to the owner and speak to him nicely and try that approach. If not, than go ahead and do that in a calm and collective manner.
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Heat travels from hot to cold. The greater the temperature difference the faster the transfer. As your spa cools, it will lose less heat (fewer BTU's) per minute or hour. e.g at 100 degrees it will be losing more heat per hour than at 90 degrees.
Neutons law of cooling : The greater the temperature difference the faster the heat exchange.
Assuming you heat your spa to 100 degrees, and it cools to 90 degrees when you turn on the heat... The system will need to run for less time to bring the temp back up to 100 than it would if it continually kept the water at 100 degrees.... But as Roger said, you're probably only saving pennies a month doing this.
I would have to disagree and say that it would be cheaper to keep the temperature @ 100 degrees rather than giving the heater more work to gain another 10 degrees every night. The tub will stop running once the desired temperature is reached. Not much heat is lost and energy used if you have a sufficient enough insulation
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Don't obsess. You don't have to get every drop of water out of the bottom or the pipes. I will even suggest you will have more issues if you suck all the water out of the lines with a shop vac. The few gallons of water left are insignificant when you add 300-500 gallons of new water. Why make it more of a project than it has to be? Get yourself a good submersible pump for about sixty dollars and put it in the bottom of your spa and pump as much as it will take out. You can wipe down the sides if you like but you really shouldn't have to. The only time I wipe down is if I am putting spa gloss on and I only do that once a year when the weather is nice. My spa shell NEVER has dirt or residue on it. Then fill through the filter well.
I don't recommend this but you can just pop the breaker on while the tub is empty and the pumps will shoot most of the water out of the line. Just make sure to turn it off after 10 seconds to ensure the pumps don't run dry for too long.
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What happens if you decide that you don’t like Dreammaker spas altogether. You might decide that you don’t like the friction-based heater, brand performance, or operating cost. Does the dealer offer any other brands that you are allowed to trade up to?
Dream maker is a cool little plug in jobbie
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will get some pics this weekend when i return from business in Detroit.....I had read after I posted that 2-3 inches is the upper limit for the 8foot spa range....
thanks again
Good choice
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I know I Must Wet Test, what I'm not sure of is the "ball bearing" issue, as well as the a seperate pump for circulation, and Eco Smart verses Ozone System, and there's the Electrical issue 110 vs 220 each dealer offered me an electricial to run 220 line, which was appreciated I think pay electrician now or pay higher electric bills later, lastly pricing was higher than I thought, however 2 dealers said they would be having "End Of Year Sales" next week! Looking forward to your imput.
1) I assume the "ball bearing" issue is someone selling you on their type of jets and that's fine but its salesmanship. When you wet test you'll decide if you like the jets, don't worry about this.
2) I like the circ pump especially to get ozone 24/7 but that shouldn't dictate your tub.
3) Don't know what Eco Smart versus Ozone means. I'm a big fan of getting a quality ozone and using chlorine with it; easy and effective.
4) 220 is preferable because you can run jets on high and have the heater on at the same time. However, there is NO difference in energy to run that heater to get a certain final temp with 220 or 110. Your bill will be the same. The difference is it heats much slower at 110. It s fallacy that there is a difference in energy used in the spa.
5) ask for their best pricing including all the options you want (get a lifter), wet test, find the spa(s) you want and then try to get an even better deal
I've been doing Ecosmarte for 3 years now and I must say to stay away from the system. In order for the water to stay clear you have to rinse before each use, cannot and I mean CANNOT spill wine, beer ect... otherwise the water gets funky. Also you must have a good measure for the PH and I don't mean those color matching strips I mean Digital Strips made by Hach. Also find something to teszt for calcium as you will need to have it above 400 ppm and the PH must be below 7 but higher than 6.7. Go with the Ozone unless you plan on using the tub with one other person without parties. Ecosmarte is good under lower loads of use and take my word for it. It sounds great but is tricky to get going.
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Yes he was that guy.....Ned Beatty sure had a surprised look on his face in that flick.
I'm sorry, but T.P. Cooter simply said "He shore got a purty mouf'". Hillbilly Bill actually made the squeal comment:
Poor ol' Ned Beatty REALLY picked the wrong place to spa shop:
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HAHAHA that is great. I need photoshop adobe advanced. lol
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Brock, that looks incredible. We almost bought that tub, same color and all. Kinda makes me sad we didn't. We made an area for a firepit by our tub also, but haven't purchased one yet. Guess that's on the to do list for this weekend. If you get a chance, can we see your pergola? Coleman should pay you something, those pics will probably help sell their spas!
I will get a pic of the whole thing for you and let you know...thanks for the nice comments.
I love that model. You should take the Cooler lid off and show off the lighting from the cooler. That tub kicks serious ASS.
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Sorry, I am new and trying to figure out how to post. Thats great you picked out a tub. I am jealous. We are still looking. Post pictures!
Happy soaking
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Unless...................
What's that white stuff all over your yard???
(Just kidding - did my 7 year stint in New England.... fled to California, where the air doesn't try to kill you, but the ground does. Seems a fair trade.)
Got a couple inches on the ground now here in Northern Minnesota.
Beautiful. Sounds delightful
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Arctic is building there reputation for longevity and being succsseful, They are a well built tub IMO but a bit overpriced.
Arctic offers the entry-level Coyote line with a similar approach to energy efficiency; fewer options but still an attractive line with some unique features.
Yeah I agree a bit overpriced but still fair value. I mean look at the cover they have like 5 people standing on it.
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Well my husband and i went out this past weekend and did some wet testing. Was really looking forward to soaking and finding the right tub for us. Have had my hopes up and searching for quite some time now. Only to discover that i am obviously a "floater". I have tried several different spa's and get the same results. Any explanation as to why this is?????? the salesman gave me a weight to set on my legs to hold me down, but who in the heck wants to do this????? I cannot see spending big bucks on a spa that i cannot set in. I am about 5' 5" tall, am i trying tubs that are too deep maybe???? Some of you may find this quite funny, but i am totally disappointed that this is happening to me. Do i just give up on my dream or is there a tub that may work for me??????? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Coleman Spa model 471 has a lounger in it that has a foot zone that you can actually use to lever yourself into the lounge so you don't float out. You should actually try and wet test that spa and I feel that you will like it.
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Well, first, you have to have your pictures hosted online somewhere. Get a free picture hosting account at someplace like Photobucket.
Then, when you go to reply, in the toolbar at the top of the reply box, there are 10 buttons. The 7th button over is for "insert an image." Press that button, and a window will pop up asking for the http address of your picture. (you might have to enable pop-ups in windows). Insert your http address of the picture, and then you can show off your hot tub.
Like this;
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Hello vbfdsooty. I've been a casual browser on this board but your posting finally compelled me to join the forum. If it's any consolation, we're having a similar frustrating experience with our brand new Artesian Quail Ridge which has been sitting empty on our deck for the last four months. We're now going through mediation (chargeback) with VISA and expect resolution soon. Bottom line, the dealer contends our problems are minor in nature (despite several tech visits and escalating problems after each visit) and he has offered nothing in terms of customer service/satisfaction. Artesian has pushed all of the problems back to the unresponsive dealer so we were left with no choice other than to return this lemon and start all over. Ironically, we have been seriously considering D1 but after reading your tale of woe, we'll definitely rethink that option. We'll post our long horror story soon. Note to all new buyers; keep meticulous notes about who said what and when, repairs, phone calls, photos. We kept notes when we started having problems with our brand new tub and it turned out we needed them to support our case for return and refund of our $$. Best of luck to you!!
See people it is very important to keep all service tickets and paperwork for your spa in one folder. D1 and artesian are great companies and I am very suprised to hear that but things can only get better now. I am very shocked.
Whatever you do, do not throw in the towel before the miracle happens.
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Thanks for the replies. I hesitated to mention actual costs, because I didn't want to piss anybody off on the board. But to show the difference, I'll talk price. If it's against the rules, I'm sure someone will correct me very quickly.
The Eco Pur filters from my dealer are somewhere around $70-75 each. (I'm going from memory, so don't hold these numbers hard and firm) I need two of them in my tub. I have seen them selling on ebay for about $45-50 each. So that's my first line of savings. Now, with the Pleatco, I've found them as low as $17 each online. So it's anywhere from a $60-120 savings, depending on where I buy them from. I know that you get what you pay for, and either Master Spa has a huge markup on filters, or the Pleatco's aren't quite as good, (I think it's a little of both) but that price difference is enough to intrique me about the Pleatco filters. I think I may try Brulan1's advice, and try the Pleatco. If they suck, I'm only out $35, and I can switch back to the Eco Pur.
Note: the prices I quoted are only for the internal Eco Pur filter. They do not include the large, outer filter.
Problem solved thread closed untill latest update on how well to your suprise the pleatco works.
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Natural Chemistry makes great products. A lot of people swear by Spa Perfect.
Yeah your not kidding. People loveeee the spa perfect. Clogged filters, scumline
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Hello vbfdsooty. I've been a casual browser on this board but your posting finally compelled me to join the forum. If it's any consolation, we're having a similar frustrating experience with our brand new Artesian Quail Ridge which has been sitting empty on our deck for the last four months. We're now going through mediation (chargeback) with VISA and expect resolution soon. Bottom line, the dealer contends our problems are minor in nature (despite several tech visits and escalating problems after each visit) and he has offered nothing in terms of customer service/satisfaction. Artesian has pushed all of the problems back to the unresponsive dealer so we were left with no choice other than to return this lemon and start all over. Ironically, we have been seriously considering D1 but after reading your tale of woe, we'll definitely rethink that option. We'll post our long horror story soon. Note to all new buyers; keep meticulous notes about who said what and when, repairs, phone calls, photos. We kept notes when we started having problems with our brand new tub and it turned out we needed them to support our case for return and refund of our $$. Best of luck to you!!
See people it is very important to keep all service tickets and paperwork for your spa in one folder. D1 and artesian are great companies and I am very suprised to hear that but things can only get better now. I am very shocked.
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Hey everyone, love the forums. I need a little help in buying a new spa. I live in New York so it will have to be outdoors in the winter. I'm looking for one that will seat 3 people and can recline in at least on of the seats. There's so much information on the web I just want to make sure I get something from a good company. I'm looking around $5000. Customer service is important if that helps. does anyone have a good suggestions?
3 seater spas
Hotsprings Jetsetter
Coleman C-351
Sundance makes a 3 seater
Dynasty and Marquis make a triangle 2-3 seater
Jacuzzi makes a 3 seater
What part of NY do you live in?
What's The Dumbest Hot Tub Mistake You've Made.
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I overfilled one of our demo spas and found my dog afterhours splashing around in it. Because of this I will not let the dog out of my office while I'm in the back fixing one of the secretary's
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