Nalod
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THe speakers that make sound that makes one happy is a good one!!!!!
So many brands its hard to list them all!
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV2sSF1Pxe8
Good idea but the execution might be suspect.
Im sure they are selling a lot of those tubs!
Maybe someone will take the innovations and do it right.
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I was in a Hot Springs hot tub this weekend, and it had 5 filters. Is this normal?
The big ones do!
I had a grandee model with the 5. Lots of fun to clean and replace them. With the new ceramic filters it was not cheap!
But a great tub!
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I bought an inline pump that fits beween garden hose. Just a table spoon of cooking oil to lube it until water hits it. About 6 feet of hose for the intake then the 100 feet down to the natural area where the trees and english Ivy can have at it.
I can also attach it to the drain and let it suck it out faster than gravity would. Or both! I have to drain the last bits out any way to get the soapy stuff out. I also like to flush about 10 gal with clean water at the end to get any jet cleaner out.
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With the pumps on, I doubt that any solution other than one that has speakers mounted right onto the tub will provide any worthwhile sound, and no where near the quality levels this has become
"what brand of speakers should I mount to my lanwmower?"
But the real fun is trying!
Close proximity to the tub is the solution. A small pop us speaker attaced to a boat stereo costing $1500 or a high quality speaker 12' further mounted on a post in a big planter with an evergreen in it.
If one is creative you can save a ton of money.
A small glass of red wine, some tasty snack and Pat Metheny on the speakers is pretty mellow!
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I wanted to do a Voyager system with the outdoor Subwoofer mounted below the deck or better yet the hot tub on my old house a few years back. Then I thought I might be over doing it. We have since moved and in the process of redoing our patio/porch and subseqent spa space.
I think the speakers from JBL, Polk, and Pardigm are all superior choices as they great speaker companies.
Outdoor speakers perhaps need not be of audiophile quality when you have a hot tub running. How one mounts them such as distance in height, distance apart, on a brick vs under a wooden eave, vs on a pole on a deck, vs on a fence all will change the dynamics of even the same speaker. Naturally quality of amplification is important.
My Screened in patio is a tongue and grove bead board ceiling partially vaulted. I chose not to put "in ceiling mounts" because I did not want cut outs in the ceiling. IN Ceilings would have been a nice clean instalation but it in a room 20 x17 outside it would require about 6-8 speakers ( to get my accomplished result). Besides I have 2 pair of 251's already not being used with almost $700 spent! They are set on 300 watt indvidual volume switches and provide a natural quality at low volumes. Good sound in restaurants used many speakers to get the proper coverage without overpowering conversation. Bose provides a solid construction and bass sound in this product model. The 151's are nice but don't go as low. The 5 inch woofer in the 251's is not even visable when the grill is off as they have it hidden using the wave type process to replicate that larger sound. Bose trickery is nice in some of its products and this one works great in this application. One might say JBL, Polk, etc are better companies, and inside I would agree but outside that superior componentry is lost a bit on the environment its put into. Inside I have a Miller and Kressel (M&K Sound) and would never use a near field type system in a large room, let alone outside. Companies that sell speakers want to sell more speakers and many who desire fine quality inside would naturally gravitate to them for outdoor applications. And those whom purchase them are happy with the product so its all good!!!!
LIke I said, I would not use bose home theatre products.
I think a quality sound for a hot tub would be to have four speakers at listening (or near) in the corners so the volume is lower (neighbor friendly) and fewer hotspots (when two treble sources collide the ears don't like it). Few tub installations can even get two this way! I am limited to two and would have put them at ear level except I think gettin in an out of the tub we might bang our heads. Boston Accustics are going in the tub area. The trick is to get quality and acceptable volume without it being broadcast thru the neighborhood. Naturally a set of waterproof headphones with a protected source is ideal but us humans naturally feel a bit volnerable when enclosed in water and closing off our ambient environment only adds to that anxiety. Of course, some want to get in the tub with a fat stogie, a few wine coolers and blast Aerosmith thru the neigborhood, while others want armotheropy candles waffing good smells while meditating to John Tesh while freebasing xanex!
I used the Bose in the patio also because they use two tweeters angled away so to crate a more open sound field. In no way are bose tweeters great audiophile quality but they are very condusive to what I am trying to accomplish. I would not use a bose speaker for a dedicated hot tub area because that tweeter array is going to broadcast over a much wider listening area. In this application you want a very narrow speaker character which usually goes against what out door speakers are trying to do. But some will do it better (worse) than others.
So in short, my applications are use bose speakers for largel areas or multiple pairs for greater saturation in lower volume, or in a near field situation one of the more traditional speakers with a good mid range character. Too bright and its annoying and too muddy you won't hear it over the tub.
All the recomendations are correct as they are all subjective to what your ears like and the level of obsession you wish to involve yourself into. The portable easy solution is a very good one also!
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My tub is also going under a patio in a walkout area off a basement.
What I did was make sure the tub is as close to the edge so its not tucked far underneath and you can look up. Also I had my ceiling finished with inexpensive but washable white vinyl material with (to code) recessed lighting. The lights need a set distance from the tub. I am putting a plastic shower type lens on mine in addition.
THere are some easy under deck products to put as a ceiling and keep water from dripping.
With the paving if done up to the house it should be cleaner with less bugs. I don't know what part of the country your and if screening is really necessary. I am considering it but I can use a fan to keep buggs moving if it gets bad only in the summer months. With a solid patio base, and perhaps a finished ceiling where spiders can't do thier thing you could very well have a less buggy area. It will also keep it drier!!! Spray the corners to keep them bugs at bay too! A finished lower patio will also increase the value and look of the back yard.
Make sure you can get in and hose/sweep around the tub. With plants, maybe some outdoor mirror type hangings the area won't be so gloomy. I wired some outdoor speakers on the posts. You may want to paint the posts and perhaps do a bit of landscaping to soften the area. All low cost tings to really make that space nice.
Its a nice space and you'll have good use for it now.
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We are becoming very very nervous about mold.
Mold has been around since the day we were born and some molds are not gonna hurt you.
Its the airborne ones that will kick you ass.
You have warm water around pourous serfaces its gonn happen from time to time.
Keep a bottle of 20% bleach and 50% water in a spray bottle and use it from time to time to spot clean the tub anyway. You can use it on pillows and around the controls with a soft brush. Spray on weird looking things and let it sit and scrub with brush and it should come right off.
If the tub is not making you sick then its all ok. Covers have lots of grainy surfaces that things can get into.
Tub chlorine levels bounce and we are not perfect in how we stay on top of the levels so maybe you had somthing start that usually does not happen.
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I hate bose!!!!!!
Won't put a theatre system of thiers in my house at all!!!! OVerpriced and over rated!
THey make things simple, which is not entirely a bad thing.
But, as a consumer product company for the smaller products they make they do a nice job. I have a 2.1 bose system at my work computer and it does a nice job. The headphones they make also sound very good.
I have 2 sets of the 251's and I they are wonderful! They are full range speakers and the bass response for an outdoor speaker is very good. So good I was inspired to change my main system a few years ago. I also have some Boston acoustics set up just for the hot tub.
The Bose prices are usually fixed to within 10% so getting a "deal" on them are tough. The more they are proteced from the elements the longer they will last.
There are some nice "rock" speakers that can be placed on the ground or those in flower pots for the outdoors. Bose and others also have in ground systems.
Outdoor speakers set up is a bit trickey as sound carries and you can be suprised how far it travels to your neighbors yard. Thats why the more speakers you have the less volume you need. Think of a central air conditioning vs a monster window unit. The more outlets you have the more coverate you have. Thats why at theme parks they have those cool in ground speakers all over the place. You hear the music but don't really know where it comes from.
How high you put them, mounted on wood or brick, or under an over hang or wide open all have an effect on the sound.
Most important is what you think of them and how much you want to spend. Some are bright sounding while others are "warm". There is no right or wrong.
JBL, Bose, Niles, Boston Accoustics, are all good. Yamaha is a big name but not a known for its speakers. They are likely a good value.
Try www.outdoorspeakerstore.com/
Wireless are convienent but the technology is not there yet. But it gets the music to where you want and thats all that matters!!!!
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Yessss......for solo usage, I do see your point. You'd have the best of everything with the lounger!
Really perfectly logical, if mostly solo then get the lounger. Half the fun of a big tub is swimming around and getting all the messages.
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Roger, I think Nalod's post wasn't bashing per se- more like dripping with sarcasm of the bashing that is inevitably to come... (which didn't take long).
But I have to ask- now that we have a mod in the battle, who's left to close the thread?
Thank you for getting me!
Maybe matt can do a Spa Cam thing with a power meter so we can moniter the life of it. Kind of like "The Truman SHow"! We can watch for leaks and issues.
As a newbie Im really into the story of "SPA WARS"!
Is companies like HS and Sundance the "Empire"?
Is Matt CP30?
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I had a Grandee for 4 years and sold it with the house. I was ready to buy an Envoy but really did not like the seating angles, but its a fine tub and hot springs is great.
I intially liked the sundance tub back then but did not like the dealer and was sold on HOtSprings wonderful build quality.
That Dealer is gone, and the one that has hotsprings also has sundance and this time we went to that and tested both. The Sundance with its bubbles and jet placement just felt better.
I did not want as big a tub this time. I was also considering the Sovereign. Nice tub. Figure if your gonna spend 7k why not 8500 and get what you really want.
If your sold on HS, and you can't go wrong there, then just wet test both and you'll figure it out. Logic is one thing and build quality is a priority but after than its how you feel.
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I must take even more time to rant and correct my reckless spelling ways.
Or is it more funny to spell it in an improper manner?
Im new here but his last attempt in Costco justification was his own undoing.
While Im sure there are some here that sell many brands and are threatened by Costcos lower pricing structure the core engagement is "dealer support" and without it does it justify the savings? I doubt in 4 months nobody will have "the last laugh".
I can appreciate buying a tub at costco and taking a risk it works out. For the little he paid it really just might. He has a lot of repair cost room for it to equate. And if he don't mind the hassle of it, then its a great deal!
Matt's post was freaking funny. The dude is regal!
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I too had the hot springs ceramic filters. 5 for my Grandee! Bought ten cuz I just figured its easy to clean all at once then have available.
I sprayed and soaked, then put on a broom stick and hit it with a hose and let it spin. Then tried my power wash on it and it spun so fast and the weight of the water in it the thing actually blew apart!!!!!!
I tried the diswasher but found it really did not clean well enough and the cleaner (glorified Kaboom) will bubble up so the hose if really the only way to go. The ceramic filters are scrubable with a soft brush.
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I'm more of a "soak under the stars" kind of guy but that cottage looks cool and the price looks reasonable from the picture and size.
I would rather be under the stars as well. My father had a hot tub growing up and there was nothing better then having it cold and snowing outside and sitting in the nice hot tub.
But honestly if we were not getting the house then my wife wouldn't let me get the tub, so since its still outside just screened in its a fair trade.
She wants me to find a LCD TV to mount above the sliding glass doors inside the house so this way we can watch TV or a movie while sitting in the hot tub.
My wife is now wondering if we need to get a building permit for the house and the electrical work, I am unsure, since the house is being delivered already built and am nervous about having an electrical inspection since our house is from the 30's and he might want us to do other work in the house in order to give his ok to wiring the hot tub. We are going to be going from 100amp service to 200 amp service.
Got to admit I am real nervous and excited about all of this.
Electric fan in my state has to be 8 feet from the water line. Im sure your smart enough not to adjust a fan while in the water. I can't imagine an inspection would allow for it.
Make sure its all up to code. Be safe.
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April 20th, 2009
Today I ordered the following tub from costco. I am generating this post to document my experiences in real time. I'm hoping for smooth sailing, but I promise to accurately document the process so both views in the whole costco tub argument can have a simple post to read. I'm wasting my time doing this because I want to give back to this community and provide some real data as many here have helped me. Please DO NOT post denigrating text that offers no technical value (that includes you Roger ) as we all know the general consensus. Thanks, Matt
To give you perspective:
-I have a technical background
-have wet tested a number of leading spas
-returned one tub to costco about five years ago after a month due to a leak that damaged the interior of the tub badly
-want just an adequate tub as a starter. If this tub lasts five years and I can prove to myself that I'm dedicated to the process than maybe I'll consider a more expensive tub.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?...〈=en-US
http://calspas.net/images/swf/oc-hot-tubs-m534-video.html
because this link will eventually go inactive I'll copy and paste the specifications below.
-I noted that some of the specifications on the costco site and the "watch demo" link that goes to calspas (link above) site don't agree. One difference being that costco site indicates 1 year labor while the OC pdf indicates no labor coverage. Another is 1 pump on costco's site and two pumps on cal's site. Also the control has a different specification. This is bothersome, but for a low cost tub I don't really care as long as it operates.
Specs from costco's site:
Majestic Series – MOC-534L:
Standard Features:
· Seating: 3 Person
· Dimensions: 64” x 84” x 32”
· Total # of Jets: 34 Stainless Steel Spoke Jets
· 16 Micro Flow Directional Jets (ED)
· 13 Euro Less Eyeball Jets (ELE)
· 4 Euro Directional Jets (ED)
· 1 Ozone Jet (OZ)
· Full Foam Insulation
· Water Treatment: Ozonator Installed
· High Performance Pump: 1 x 6.0BHP 240V
· Pump Voltage: 240V (Electrical connections must be made by qualified and licensed personnel. Improper installation present Hazards, which can result in personal injury or property damage. Please contact a licensed residential electrician for these services)
· 2” Plumbing
· Gate Valves
· Lighting: 12V Spa Light
· Filter Screw In with Weir Gate: 50 sq. ft.
· 3 Comfort Pillows
· Weight: Dry: 600lbs Filled: 3,307 lbs
· Water Capacity: 325 USG
· Equipment: "V300 Control with Digital Top Side"
· Flow-Through Heater
· Low Profile Drain (LPFD)
· Wall Drain
· Cabinet Accessible Drain Valve
· Pressure Treated Cabinet Frame
· Standard Bottom Tray
· Shell Color: Snow White
· Synthetic Cabinet Panels: Mist
· Cover: Gray
Warranty:
· 5 Years - Structural
· 2 Years - Finish
· 2 Years - Parts
· 1 Year - Labor
May 5th 2009
The tub was delivered Last Thursday, or a couple weeks after placing my order. I had a friend bring over a pallet jack and with the help of the delivery guy (don't expect them to help I was just lucky) and his pallet jack we rolled the tub into my back yard on two pallet jacks with no problems. I gave the delivery guy a tip for his effort. If I was doing this again I'd get two friends and two pallet jacks with two sheets of plywood or OSB to get across soft spots in the yard.
The tub was strapped and wrapped with cardboard/thin foam on a pallet, so it arrived with no damage and in good shape. The cover was in a separate box.
Over the weekend I built a thin "pallet" using synthetic deck boards by laying down the 8ftx5.25x1 long boards on 1ft pitch and then laying additional boards across the first set with about 1/2 spacing in between. This created a very nice lifted surface for water run off. Previously I had a tub directly on concrete and didn't like it. I had one other friend help me lower the 600# tub onto the pallet. After it was down the abs bottom allowed it to slide around easily for repositioning.
My first impression of the tub was that I was very happy with the aesthetics and lay out. Being a low cost tub, it does not have diverter valves and air valves, so as far as controls is pretty simple. I removed one of the jets by turning it counter clock wise with easy. The jets are designed so you can almost turn them off allowing you to redirect pressure to a particular seat if need be. Opening them all the way causes bubbles to form similar to an air valve. When they are half way off the pressure is about the same, but there are no bubbles.
I pulled the sides off the tub and discovered a brown paper that was used as a backing (foam sprayed inbetween shell and paper) when the foam insulation was sprayed in. It appears to be approximately three or four inches thick or more in most places, but there are a few places were it is thinner around equipment. I was quite pleased with the amount of insulation I observed. The cover is 4" thick near the center and tapers off to 2.5 inches at the ends.
I noted that the frame was typical 2x construction that was fabricated from treated wood.
After the tub was in place I set a treated post in the ground, installed the disconnect box, and hooked up the 50amp GFCI breaker with the help of an electrician friend. We had already run 6ga wire from the house panel so it took about two hours. We ran the last 15ft with 8ga copper wire between the disconnect and tub.
Before we turned on the juice, we filled the tub with water through the filter port. When we turned on the power the tub ran the pump (apparently for five min. before it kicks on the heater). It took a bit of messing around for about twenty seconds and bleeding the air out of the pump head before the water started to flow....not a big deal.
Opening the equipment side of the spa reveled as expected, entry level spa equipment including:
1 ge motor w/ pump
1 balboa spa pack with flow through 5.5kw heater (simple 4button control up top)
1 balboa CD chip ozonator
2 gate valves
2" plumbing
The 4-button control up top allows switching between standard, economy, and sleep mode.
The specifications online have been updated to reflect what I suspected, that the tub is about 200 gallons, not 300. This was fine by me. The heater took about 2-3 hours getting up to 100 degrees.
After installing the cover lifter and cover lock latches it was done. I then started messing with chemicals.
Basically it arrived quickly, was not damaged, included all the parts, and was exactly what I envisioned. The set up was what I expected and went without issue. I was pleased to see industry branded components and plenty of insulation.
I've used the tub the last two nights for a total of one hour. The seats are comfortable, the jets are surprisingly adequate, and the layout of each seat seems to work a different part of my back. I enjoy being in this tub! The Hot Spring tub is certainly the most intense of all the tubs I tested (beachcomber, marquis, hotsprings), but this tub compares nicely to the marquis and beachcomber from a wet testing perspective. In fact I found myself wanting to escape the high pressure in the Hot Spring. I certainly love the Hot Spring Moto message.
I noted that the heater was capable of raising the temperature of the water while the tub was on high with ambient conditions of approximately 65F.
The only thing that I could complain about is that it's louder on high speed due to pump noise than I would like. It's not waking the neighbors up, but it makes some noise. When in the tub you don't notice it over the water noise if that gives you a qualitative example.
72 hours with water in it and no signs of leaks. I'll pull all the sides off in two weeks and check again.
Now that the tub has arrived and their quality control appears to have got the tub to me in working condition, the real question is will the insulation prove to be as effective as it appears it will be, and how long will it last. Since it has balboa parts I know I can likely get parts to fix the tub if I need.
As of right now I'm extremely happy that I did not spend twice as much on a better tub, as this one looks like it will satisfy my requirements nicely.
I'll report again if I have a problem or in a few months.
June 3rd, 2009
I have now had the tub running for one month. I'm using Nitro/Chem Geek's Chlorine method and am very happy.
I have used the tub about 27 out of the last 30 days for approximately thirty minutes.
This tub continues to be exactly what I wanted/needed with no defects.
August 29th, 2009
It how now been four months of use. I am still very happy. In fact I'm thrilled at how simple this tub is because it does exactly what I want and it does it well. Electricity usage is impossible to quantify because I have changed so many things (add square footage, add A/C changes, add hot tub, add new family member, add permanent guest). All things considered my electric bills does not indicate I have a huge hog on the line, but I can't really tell you for sure...... plus it's summer. Upon inspection I noted that my tub has plenty of insulation. The cover is also thick. I specifically bought a tub that indicated full foam insulation and would not buy a costco tub that indicated otherwise.
I'm going to venture to say that even if I have to have this thing fixed several times, I still won't be disappointed.
Thumbs up!
Such an amazing story it should be read twice!!!!!!!!!!
A man, A hot tub and his quest to tell a story!
" Upon inspection I noted that my tub has plenty of insulation. The cover is also thick. I specifically bought a tub that indicated full foam insulation and would not buy a costco tub that indicated otherwise."
This is a man of unusual discrimination. A man who wants nothing but the best, and wants it at discount.
A man who wants no feed back, no reply, no indication of the world around him.
A body of water he sits alone. A body of water that is in reality his own island oasis. He has baptised himself and fully insolated his ideal that his tub, and his tub alone for 4 months has battled the ravages of summer without hardly a wisper on his heating bill! How dare we question otherwise!!!! Fools!!!
He requests no one dare to respond to his womb of spa utopia, or question his discriminating tastes for he would not even consider a tub not fully insolated.
He mocks other spas. He mocks those with motors of fail, heaters of dispair and control units not obiediant to its master!
He mocks your financial reckless ness, and he mocks your warranty!
For he assures that no man shall tresspass on his pulsating baptismal font so delivered from the Vatican of wholesale and at such a low price no man shall question!!!!!!!!
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I have been gone for along time..got fed up with some of the stuff on here...
Anyways...back then..some of the haters said see if i still like it in a year or two..well.we still love it.
Anyways...covers..i do need a new cover. Ours has had it...and i think that is more our fault then Costco or Hydrospa. None the less, any recommendations on a replacement cover?
Did you really put "ha ha" on your tittle?
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In 1994 I build a 1700Sq ft Ipe deck with a HS Grandee tub partially sunk to chair height (18inches). Great tub and great service when needed!
Sold the house with the tub and regret not taking it out and putting in some other tub.
Went a year without a tub and with the cool nights approaching and our construction almost done we decided to get a new tub.
Of course we shopped HS but decided on a Sundance.
Our Grandee was great but like many we did not have many those wonderful brochure tub moments where the neighbors come over (or at least the really good looking ones!) or many family tubs. Sure once in a while our teenage children tolerate us and jump in, but usually its with friends or when sore from athletic events.
The Grandee was 500 gallons and the new Majesta (2008 floor model) is 375. Its a deep tub so Im happy. Seats 5, but 4 get corners! Mostly its just me and my wife. Great tub!
We loved the Grandee but even 5 years ago felt the Sundance performed better. At the time we thought the HS was a better build and it did provide great service and did not dissapoint. WE like the dealer and got great service when needed! Since then the new sundance factory (opened 2002) has proved itself and the dealer picked up the sundance line from another than went under. That was one reason also we did not get the Sundance.
There are many good brands out there but These two have the best warranty and if for some reason my dealer goes under (been around a while, hope it stays that way!) Those brands should be picked up locally!
No doubt your gonna pay up for those brands. But I prefer to buy floor models at discount at model year end and get tubs that don't have many breakable frills. Im a bit of an audiophile and think the ingenuity that goes into some of the systems are great, but the costs and warranty of the systems don't sit well with me. My suggestion is be creative and you can have a new system for about a third of the cost. I like to tub right before bed and enjoy about 20 with the jets on then 5 with the calm waters of a quiet tub.
BUt My new tub will have sound. Quality outside speakers with independent volume control wired to a new mid priced reciever with build in iPod control works. Set a playlist and Im ready. ONly thing is I can't control the music choice once Im in the tub. I wired with an external volume control reachable (no voltage!) while in the tub. My savings are considerable but the simplicity will allow me to upgrade down the road and repairs are a breeze. Be createve, put speakers in tall planter boxes, or mount them close to the tub as possible. Get a good quality speaker!
The 2008 Sundance Majesta does not have the fancy lighting under the control valves and thats fine with me. The waterfall is there and lights up. I would not pay extra for it. Lighting is a big feature these days and "Limelight" takes advantage of the amenity to sell lots of tubs. I previewed a Dynasty tub and the salesman was all about the waterfall, dancing waters and the LED. The flashing white dancing LED's was a real turn off. The pro rated warranty was really the turn off. Nice tub, good value, lots of amenities BTW. They sell lots of tubs. I know lighting is "suppose to enhance the tub experience" but the standard LED that changes color is great and enough for me. I keep it at the lowest setting.
Just stating a preference and what I look for.
It goes without saying that Flat panel TV's are not gonna happen either.
New house has walk out basement and under a 2nd story Covered patio. Be interesting to have it protected from the elements (good) but not be able to star gaze at night (bad). I expected the tub to be a bit louder with a roof over it. Sitting on 4 inches of pavement with another two inches of brick paver on top of that will provide a nice stable platform.
Its always shocking how expensive these things are!
A trouble free tub is always what we are looking for and I want my money going into build quality and water quality. The sundance has the air blower and I kind of like that!
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I learned a thing or two from the advisement of several on this site and glad that I listened. Number one pour a pad and life is good. Number two buy local and get the needed service, you will have questions. Number three you get what you pay for, I bought a Hot Springs. I did the wiring myself and it was quite easy except for the nuetral terminal on the 30 amp ground fault, it is up underneath and takes a little searching to find. I found that my well water has alot of iron but patience and persistance will bring the water around.
Thanks for the Help!
Tubhunter
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I thought HS is very adament about who does the wiring and how thy will honor the warranty unless licensed pro does it?
They won't know PROVIDED it is done correctly.
John
Naturally if done correctly, it should not be a problem. This is not rocket science.
BUt say the pump is defective, or the tub controler fails. Won't they at the very least want to see your reciept of the hookup? Might not be the cause, but you gave them "cause" to back out legally.
Or....
Say the tub for some crazy reason electrocutes those in it due to a defect. Warranty language is warranty language. They can come back and say its all moot cuz unlicensed hook up. Legally you gave them the out.
I can think of a lot of other scenarios, but why take the risk since you purchased a great tub and perhaps one of the best warranties?
Im not an electrician nor pretend to be one in a holiday inn express, but why not just have one come by, look at it and certify it.
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I learned a thing or two from the advisement of several on this site and glad that I listened. Number one pour a pad and life is good. Number two buy local and get the needed service, you will have questions. Number three you get what you pay for, I bought a Hot Springs. I did the wiring myself and it was quite easy except for the nuetral terminal on the 30 amp ground fault, it is up underneath and takes a little searching to find. I found that my well water has alot of iron but patience and persistance will bring the water around.
Thanks for the Help!
Tubhunter
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I thought HS is very adament about who does the wiring and how thy will honor the warranty unless licensed pro does it?
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30% should be vodka!!!!!!!!
You guys got me good!