TinyBubbles
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Hi and congratulations on your new spa. This forum has a water chemistry section with great information and helpful people. Which chemical start up kit did you purchase? People can sanitize their spas with dichlor (chlorine), bromine, and other "alternate" sanitizers.
Thanks for the replys, I bought Rendezvous delux spa care kit. It contains Ph up , Ph down, 50 GLB test strips, brominating disinfect tablets, protect plus (protects against stain,scale and rust),activate (shock treatment without clorine to clear water eliminate odors),spa clarifier (clears cloudy water and improves filter efficency),foam out, natural clear(naturally clears cloudy water and eliminates scum buildup)and finally a bromine tablet float. WOW seems like a lot of chemicals. Do you think I will need them all? Thanks fellow tubbers for the imput. My Tub
I don't know much about bromine, I'm a chlorine gal. I can tell you that you will need most of them. You will probably only need either the ph up or down, depending on your local water. The foam out is optional, I don't use it, try not to add more to the water than I need to. The clarifier is something you may or may not need. I used it once. It definately helped, but people have warned not to use it too much. If you don't want to add the natural clear there are things called scumballs that just float in the water and attract the scum build up.
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That tub isn't for a family, it's for a whole country! Congratulations and please post pics when you get it set up.
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Hi Mark, don't be sorry to ask. We are as amazed as you are. We installed the tub the day after the first day of a billing cycle for our power bill. When we got that bill it was $35 dollars less than the bill for the last year. It was October and I live in GA, so temps. are fairly mild then. We were doing a bathroom remodel last year, so maybe powertools made last years bill slightly higher. The second month that we owned the spa there was only a 60 cent increase in the bill. Again, I am comparing it to the same time frame last year, our bill shows the previous 12 months. We had a really big cold snap during that time, with temps. in the 20's which is unusual for us. The tub is plugged in and fully functioning. We use it every night for an hour, on weekends we additionally use it for an hour or two in the am. In the beginning we kept the tub set at 99, once it got colder we changed that to 101. It's not a huge tub, just 350 gallons, I don't know if that makes a difference. Unfortunately, no reduced rates from the power company. In addition, they were not estimated bills, the meter was actually read. I should be getting another bill in the mail any day now. I'll keep you posted. I hope this one is not THE shocker. I have to tell you, we are beyond pleasantly suprised.
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Would you really be willing to watch a full length movie thats 2 hours long sitting in 102 -103 degree water? Let me know where you live so I can bring some potatoes and carrots.
Just a joke that's all.
Ummm, does it make me weird if I say yes? Now, if you really want some soaking fun, catch an ice road trucker marathon!
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Hi and congratulations on your new spa. This forum has a water chemistry section with great information and helpful people. Which chemical start up kit did you purchase? People can sanitize their spas with dichlor (chlorine), bromine, and other "alternate" sanitizers.
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Now, Bo "panties-in-a-wad" Darc. Relax. You get so bent out of shape when money is mentioned. You need one of those nanatini thingies. I didn't start this post to judge anyone's income. I have seen posts where people, especially elderly people, have been bamboozled by this co. I hate to see it happen to anyone else. From what I understand they are famous for in-home high pressure sales. With any in-home purchase there is a 3 day right to recision period. Apparently, they trick people into signing things and convince them that they do not have a legal right to back out of the deal. I don't care if you make $1 a year or $1 million, that ain't right! If I can post something here that will prevent someone from being scammed, then I'm going to do it. According to the BBB they have well over a hundred complaints against them. They range from sales practices to delivery issues to service/repair issues, product complaints, warranty issues, etc. Once again, who cares what a salesman makes if he and his company are backing up their product. This company clearly is not. If someone wants to buy a spa from thermospa, good for them. I just hope if they are looking at this forum, they get the info. they need to make an educated decision. After that, it's just that, their decision.
Tiny, panty-unwadder, bubbles.
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What part of the country do you live in? These tubs can't maintain temps. while running jets, so that is something to consider. I live in a warmer climate and have a coworker with one. He said that even with the jets off you can't keep the temp. warm enough for more than about 15 minutes. I think that hotsprings might make 110v spas and they have a good reputation, so you might want to check those out. As far as locating your spa outside, is there any way to screen the spa? Some people here have posted pics of their spas with tents over them that have sides that can be completely closed. If you are set on being indoors, don't forget that they make jetted tubs for your bathroom with heaters and bubblers. Before I bought a spa, we remodeled our masterbath and installed one. I used to love to watch movies in there. Now, it sits there all alone. Maybe on a rainy day I'll use it again.
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Lys, thank you for being a big enough person to post the outcome. We all make mistakes. I'm sure your panic was fueled by the expense of a spa. There is nothing wrong with trusting an electrician who did work for you in the past. I am just glad you have it all sorted out and have a working spa! It's good to know that the tech at Keys was giving you the correct info. after all. So...........have you gotten to take a soak? I really am happy that everything worked out for you.
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Richard, I can't find any info. on the product he is talking about. I am going to go out on a limb and assume that it is not a FAS-DPD. The kit I use is not either. It works for me because I don't shock with chlorine. That was a good point to bring up. The kit he is looking at should give the ranges that it tests between. Maybe he can dig a little deeper to find the info.
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Hi Richard, I don't know about the model # green is referring to. It's not the same kit we use, but I'm going to see if I can find the info.
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There have been many ads about Thermospas "the nation's largest retailer" and their gigantic clearance sale coming to the Atlanta area. If I'm not mistaken, I've seen horror stories about people being ripped off by this company. If there are people that might be quietly looking at this forum that might be going to this sale, does anyone have any advice for them? I think the ads say they have spas starting at $599. I'm curious how they can advertise being the nation's largest spa retailer. I had never heard of them before coming to spa forums.
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I am having a hard time getting a taylor k2006 test kit up here however I can get a rainbow test kit R151716 with " Complete 11 test lab. Tests Free, Total and Combined Cl, Br, Iodine, ph, Acid Demand, Total Alkalinity, Water Hardness and Cyanuric Acid. Handy red box contains complete instructions, solutions and tests".
Anyone have any experince withthis kit or one of rainbows kits?
It seems to offer the same line up as the k2006 kit that chem geek recomends as far as I can see anyway...
Jason
Yes Jason, you are fine with the rainbow kit by Pentair. We sell pools in the excess of $100k and that's what our customers use. It's what I am using now, as well.
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Hi Rebecca. I think this one is completely a matter of personal preference. We went with the fake stuff, purely based on it being low maintenance. My sister has cedar on her spa and they love it and don't mind the work involved in keeping it looking nice. I don't have any info. on the insulation properties between the two. I can tell you that my energy bill has only seen a .60 cent increase since we added the spa, so I'm assuming that the fake stuff doesn't pose a problem there. What kind of spa are you getting?
Tiny- could you explain the .60 cent increase? Thanks
I'd be happy to Blake, but I'm not sure I understand the question. But, here it goes anyways. Rebecca mentioned that wood might be a better insulator for a spa. I was just giving her info. from my experience. My first powerbill with my spa was less than the same period for the previous year. My second power bill was 60 cents higher than the same period the previous year. I have the "fake stuff" on the outside of my spa, so I thought that info. might be helpful in making her decision.
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Congratulations. Those are nice spas.
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You're too kind. Now that I have something to go on, I think I should be able to find one. I will let you know if I can't.
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Hi Rebecca. I think this one is completely a matter of personal preference. We went with the fake stuff, purely based on it being low maintenance. My sister has cedar on her spa and they love it and don't mind the work involved in keeping it looking nice. I don't have any info. on the insulation properties between the two. I can tell you that my energy bill has only seen a .60 cent increase since we added the spa, so I'm assuming that the fake stuff doesn't pose a problem there. What kind of spa are you getting?
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Thanks Chas. Did you buy that online or at a national retailer?
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I'd like to have a submersible pump around for my next drain. While the bottom drain does a great job, it takes forever. I wondered if any particular size or type of pump is the best for this application.
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Michelle, unless it's a really old spa, the pumps should shut off after 15 to 20 minutes.
Why would a spa shut off after 15 minutes???
That would be annoying to have to turn the spa back on while you're relaxing.
Is this how all spas operate?
Our spas shut off after 2 hours because it assumes you forgot to shut it off. I would hate to have to turn the spa on every 15 minutes.
Terminator
It's not that bad term. If you want your jets on longer, just hit the button with your bottle opener.
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Some you better not use a public restroom or one in a hotel for that matter. Wouldn't want to use a shopping cart either.. Geeshh. A properly sanitized tub is as safe as anything.. Doesn't mean you want to share it with your friends but the idea you'll catch something in chlorinated water is absurd.
http://cbs2.com/goldstein/Hot.Tub.Bacteria.2.531490.html
Properly sanitized is the key. Based on the questions asked on this forum and others, many people do not have a handle on proper water care. It can be confusing and water can easily get away from us. There were always be people that throw caution to the wind and there will always be those of us that don't use public restrooms, sanitize our bathrooms in hotels and wipe down our shopping cart handles. Neither way is right or wrong. We are just responding to try and help Jack with his particular situation.
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Ok, I used a liquid test kit for the first time. All of my results were the same as with the test strips, except for one. The chlorine residual. It showed higher with the liquid test kit than the strips. I still had a very hard time reading the ph results. I'm assuming this is a problem seeing colors in the red family. We still have to say "I think it's somewhere between here and here". I don't really have a strong preference for one over the other. I guess I would lean towards the liquid kit, since it seemed more sensitive to the chlorine residual. Only time will tell, but I assume it is more economical as well. I'm curious to see how long the regents last.
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I believe that spafrog is the same as Natures2, just a different brand. Once activated with dichlor, you maintain it with a capful of MPS after soaks and it is a registered/accepted hot tub sanitizer with the EPA. I use a N2 as a backup with chlorine as my main sanitizer, but I could give you a list a mile long (ok, slight exaggeration) of people that use a mineral cartridge, MPS daily and shock weekly with dichlor. I have a friend that owns a pool/spa supply store and that's the program she has all her customers on. She doesn't understand why I won't do it, but I am sooooooooooooooo freaked out by germs that I can't bring myself to do it. But logically, I know it must work or people wouldn't use it and be happy with it.
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That doesn't sound right at all Michelle. You are in the right place for some good advice though. Lots of pros around here, hopefully they can point you in the right direction.
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Bo, I'd have to disagree if you are saying there are no confirmed cases of herpes being spread through pools or hot tubs. My brother-in-law is a dr. and worked with the cdc when they had the herpes outbreak at the water park. Sends shivers up my spine. It was a huge issue because, as you can imagine, kids swallow alot of water at waterparks and some had them internally. The people that contracted the disease at the waterpark weren't doing anything out of the ordinary. You made me chuckle outloud at the prospect of asking friends if they have any open wounds. You may have hit on something though, if I saw a sign like that, it would make me think twice about wanting to soak in someone's spa. I used to get in hot tubs on cruises and ski vacations, now that I own one, there is no way I would step foot in one other than my own.
Tiny, the germaphobe, bubbles.
Nature2 And Sanitation
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Yes, I would leave it in the filter for the 24 hour circ. pump.