mscdman Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Hot tub arriving soon and getting all the parts. I’m wanting to get a submersible pump I can use to drain the tub along with some sort of hose that lays flat or doesn’t take up much space to store. Questions: 1) if I purchase a 1/4 HP pump can I use those collapsing/expandable garden hoses to hook up to the pump or will the pump burst those types of hoses? 2) what about those blue lay flat discharge hoses? The hose will have to go around a corner. Are these lay flat discharge hoses bendable like that? 3) If none of the above, what pump and hose that won’t take up much space do you recommend for a 250 gallon tub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Buy a Quick Drain instead. Light weight and easy to store. Can be used to drain the spa as well as a vacuum to suck up debris in the bottom of the spa in between your 3 mth water change. https://www.costco.ca/quickvac-quickdrain-spa-maintenance-system.product.10322940.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusser Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 I have a small submersible pump from Home Depot (also see Harbor Freight), bought for my 3500 gallon above-ground pool about 15 years ago, was under $100. I have also used it in my spa (350 gallons). That blue flat hose, used for swimming pool functions like when backwashing is available in 1.5 and 2" sizes, and can go around corners. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Custer - do you not advise the flat blue hose for hot tubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Cusser said: I have a small submersible pump from Home Depot (also see Harbor Freight), bought for my 3500 gallon above-ground pool about 15 years ago, was under $100. I have also used it in my spa (350 gallons). That blue flat hose, used for swimming pool functions like when backwashing is available in 1.5 and 2" sizes, and can go around corners. 13 hours ago, CanadianSpaTech said: Buy a Quick Drain instead. Light weight and easy to store. Can be used to drain the spa as well as a vacuum to suck up debris in the bottom of the spa in between your 3 mth water change. https://www.costco.ca/quickvac-quickdrain-spa-maintenance-system.product.10322940.html My question is what hose you recceomend me using for draining with the pump that can store flat/expand. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 @CanadianSpaTech Before I buy this quick drain you mention could you please tell me if the hose must lay at ground level to work? I ask because I am going to drain into my downspout which is about 2 foot above ground... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Discharge end has to be below the spa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, mscdman said: drain into my downspout Is this because you are worried about draining the spa water onto your grass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, CanadianSpaTech said: Is this because you are worried about draining the spa water onto your grass? Yes. But two reasons for that. One, I don’t want to kill the grass. And second the lawn isn’t sloped so that much water would cause it to swamp up. maybe I need to go the submersible pump route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Get one with a garden hose connection and buy one of those expanding hoses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, RDspaguy said: Get one with a garden hose connection and buy one of those expanding hoses. That was my original plan. But will a submersible pump at say 900 GPH rio apart that expanding hose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have no clue. Never used a sump with a garden hose connection or an expanding hose doohickey. I'm not even sure you could get that flow rate from a garden hose sump. I do know the typical backwash hose is very prone to tears, punctures, and kinks. I have blown the side out of many over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, RDspaguy said: I have no clue. Never used a sump with a garden hose connection or an expanding hose doohickey. I'm not even sure you could get that flow rate from a garden hose sump. I do know the typical backwash hose is very prone to tears, punctures, and kinks. I have blown the side out of many over the years. Thanks. I think I’m going to use this pump with a garden hose discharge https://www.acehardware.com/brands/ace/40003 and this hose which is lightweight for storage with a 600PSI burst rate zero-G 4001-50 Lightweight, Ultra Flexible, Durable, Kink-Free Garden Hose, 5/8-Inch by 50-Feet,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014M9PEXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_F11UFbHY48292?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 those expandablE hoses won’t work because they only expand under pressure But there won’t be much pressure since it will be open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh64 Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 I tried using one of those "magic shrinking hose" jobies once with a 1/4 HP submersible pump and it would not allow water to go through at a reasonable pace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 hours ago, RDspaguy said: I have no clue. Never used a sump with a garden hose connection or an expanding hose doohickey. I'm not even sure you could get that flow rate from a garden hose sump. I do know the typical backwash hose is very prone to tears, punctures, and kinks. I have blown the side out of many over the years. Thanks. I think I’m going to use this pump with a garden hose discharge https://www.acehardware.com/brands/ace/40003 and this hose which is lightweight for storage with a 600PSI burst rate zero-G 4001-50 Lightweight, Ultra Flexible, Durable, Kink-Free Garden Hose, 5/8-Inch by 50-Feet,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014M9PEXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_F11UFbHY48292?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 those expandablE hoses won’t work because they only expand under pressure But there won’t be much pressure since it will be open @meh64 I agree I was worried about that The GZero hose I linked above isn’t expandable for that exact reason Hopefully it will work with the pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusser Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 That Ace pump should work fine for your need. Yes, I think the blue discharge hose would work for spa draining, but like posted earlier: don't expect such hose to last forever (especially when left out in the Arizona sun). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscdman Posted November 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 Thanks everyone. I think I’ve got a plan. Going to use that Ace pump in the link above and the hose (not the blue one) in the link above. the plan is to pump to this downspout which has underground piping that discharges towards the street in front of my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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