Hicks6 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hello, I picked up a used LA Spas HEET model and I've just wired it in and fired it up. When you turn it on you are supposed to set the desired temp first thing. I am not able to set the temp up or down, but the spa is heating. I turned it on about 4pm yesterday and its heated up to 100 by 6am this morning. Also the jet 3 button doesn't seem to do anything. I'm not sure if I have a bad topside controller, or if there are other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Depending on the control system and topside there may be a panel lock setting. La Spa manuals here... https://laspas.com/spa-literature/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are there any jets that don't have water flow out of them? You may not have a 3rd pump. Aftermarket controls can have buttons for alot of things your spa doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 RDspaguy, yes the the lounging seat jets have no flow. I'm assuming that is what the jet 3 button controls. I tried to prime it as well, which I had to do for jet 1 to get it flowing, but that didn't do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 How did you try to prime it? Can you post a pic of your circuit board and equipment area? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Post a pic of the circuit board if possible. Perhaps you can plug pump 3 in to pump 2 location to test pump 3. Also if you have and can work a multi meter you would want to test the fuses and power off the circuit board going to pump 3. Were you able to get the buttons working or are they still out. Post photo of topside as well so we know what we are working with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, RDspaguy said: How did you try to prime it? Can you post a pic of your circuit board and equipment area? I primed it according to the user manual. I removed the handle of the jet valve on the top of the spa, and loosened the threaded piece until I heard air hissing out. That worked for jet 1, and jet 2 worked on its own. I"ll post some photos shortly. I appreciate the guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CanadianSpaTech said: Post a pic of the circuit board if possible. Perhaps you can plug pump 3 in to pump 2 location to test pump 3. Also if you have and can work a multi meter you would want to test the fuses and power off the circuit board going to pump 3. Were you able to get the buttons working or are they still out. Post photo of topside as well so we know what we are working with. Here are some photos. I took your advice and I switched the P2 and P3 leads and when I did that P3 engaged, and P2 no longer engaged. So that tells me that the motors are all good, and the problem is not in the controller (though I still don't know why I cant change the temp). I checked all the fuses and they are all good. I have an electrical background, but not an electronic background if that makes sense. But with a little insight from knowledgeable people like you guys, I can usually figure this stuff out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Ok. According to the chart, pump 3 is fused with pump 1, so it probably isn't a fuse. But check them anyway. Check for damage at the pump 3 plug, they are notorious for burned connectors. You can wire past it if you need. Also check voltage at the plug. If no voltage there, you have a bad relay or circuit on the board. Remove board and check the back for burns. You can probably bring it to an electronics guy to get it replaced much cheaper than a new board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Also, track back the black wire from the pump 3 plug and verify it is going to the p16 terminal on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 With the other issues with the topside the pump 3 button might be toast. Might have to check the wire connections where it plugs to the board. Make sure all the wires are all the way into the holder and making contact. Should be able to find a cheaper than factory generic Gecko topside if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 There should be an indicator on the topside for that button. Good call, Canadaguy! Gold star for you, buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Wait, there's another guy from Canada now. (If he reappears) You need a new nickname... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpaTech Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, RDspaguy said: Wait, there's another guy from Canada now. (If he reappears) You need a new nickname... Pfft...a pool guy I mean come on really a pool guy. Suck and blow is all they know 😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Well, I checked my voltages on the board and the P3 terminal did not have power when I pushed the button. I removed the topside control and pulled the wire out, and there it was. a couple of wires were chewed right through. I cut some wire and spliced everything back together and checked her out. Everything works! Temp control and all three pumps. Thanks very much for all of the help. I really appreciate it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Okay, now its been almost a week of perfect operation and all of a sudden the controller is stuck at 104 and none of the buttons work. I checked the wiring again and all looks good. The only thing that has changed is that I installed a new stereo unit to replace the old one that didn't work well. The wiring was like for like so I dont see how that could affect it. Do I just have a bad controller? I thought I was good to go once I spliced the wires and everything was working. I'm pretty bummed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Unplug the stereo. Does it still not work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, same thing if the stereo is unplugged at the harness. The controller was working for two days with the new stereo installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 I guess it's time for a new controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Ya, I figured that would be the case. Bummer, but oh well. I got the thing for free so I cant really complain. I may reach out to see if the controller I pick out will work, since I will probably look into another Gecko controller and they dont have the same shape as the LA Spas one. Thanks for the insight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Any idea if the one linked below will work? Mine has three pumps, a light and up and down buttons. This one is the same instead of pump 3, it has a blower button. Would that still function correctly? https://spacare.com/TSC-35GeckoTopsideControlBDLTSC35GE1.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDspaguy Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 If the plug and the button layout match it should be fine. The labels are just a sticker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks6 Posted May 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Okay, cool. I ordered it. I'll let you know how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hicks6 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 So, I just got the new controller in. I plugged it in and it works, with a couple of issues. One, which I don't mind too much about, is that the functions of the buttons do not match the label on the graphic. No big deal. However, there is no button that sets the temperature down. I can turn on all the jets, and the lights, and I can adjust the temp up, but I cannot set the temp down. Not sure what I can do about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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