ggiguere Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I recently purchased a Hot Springs / Hot Spot Rhythm and noticed that there is no insulation on the front of the spa where the pumps and heater are. I was told by the sales person that it gets too hot for insulation. This may be the case when the pumps are running but what about the 90 percent of the day they are not running. Seems like there would be a lot of heat loss on that side of the tub. Does anyone have any more information about this? I have seen the Watkins video about Fibercor insulation but why isn't this all around the tub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Spring Official Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi ggiguere, Congrats on your spa; thank you for your business! The salesperson is correct. The components need air circulation to avoid overheating. There is no measurable energy loss related to this. Enjoy your new spa! Thanks, Steve ---Hot Spring Spas--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSB Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 "There is no measurable energy loss related to this"??? Can you explain, with some mention of the laws of physics, how this could possibly be the case? Or are you just repeating the company line? The air circulation may be a valid reason not to have full insulation there, but that doesn't negate the inevitable heat loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggiguere Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From looking inside spa, it appears that there is no insulation on that side of the tub. So it would appear there is no insulation on at least 20 - 25% of the tub? How can there be no heat loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosemoose Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 They just delivered a new Grandee to me today and I was shocked to see there was no insulation on the pump side door. It looks like the tub itself is insulated but the pump housing and the plumbing have to have heat loss I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Spring Official Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hey guys, Thanks for the replies; you guys keep me on my toes! I agree, 'no measurable' reads the wrong way. Clarifying: the energy consumption related to any potential heat loss does not affect on our CEC compliance. If the compartment is permanently insulated it will 100% overheat components in warm environments. If you're in an extremely cold envrionment for several months a year, and want to take an extra step in the winter, we have a winterizing blanket, part# 31399. However it has to be removed when it warms. Thanks, Steve ---Hot Spring Spas--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosemoose Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thanks Steve, that's good information to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 If one of the best insulated tubs in the world has heat loss through the equipment door, which it does. Imagine how much heat loss is on other not so well insulated tub brands. I'm not a big Hot Springs/Watkins fan in most ways, however they are the standard that everyone is trying to compare themselves to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreservedSwine Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Not only a non-insulated door, but an actual vent on each pump to evacuate the hot air they create outside into the night air! Which is actually a good thing, unless you like to cook things like circuit-boards and motors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Not only a non-insulated door, but an actual vent on each pump to evacuate the hot air they create outside into the night air! Which is actually a good thing, unless you like to cook things like circuit-boards and motors The winter kits are a standard thing where I live and people put them in and take them out every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreservedSwine Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013   Not only a non-insulated door, but an actual vent on each pump to evacuate the hot air they create outside into the night air! Which is actually a good thing, unless you like to cook things like circuit-boards and motors  The winter kits are a standard thing where I live and people put them in and take them out every year. At night, it get's all the way down to the chilling mid 70's here in S Florida, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Spring Ace Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Thanks Steve, that's good information to have. This is a good idea so follow through with the kit but take it off before the weather gets too hot, don't wait for that compartment heat to cause an overheating problem when summer hits and then take it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosemoose Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think the wife and I will take a trip to ft wayne this weekend to see Donna about this. Thanks for the info. It's nice to know we have a resource in the know close at hand. If I change the water when I am supposed to I can install the kit in the late fall and take it out early spring and that's perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callietechno010 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hello, I also faced this type of problem for my garage door. Then i used best garage door insulation kit and got best solution. I think you can also prefer this. Surely you get solution to your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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