MrSundance Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I'll make sure to tell Dan Schechner, the author of the article from Pool and Spa News, that you think he is a liar. At first he will probably be annoyed. But then he will probably say, "why do I care what this no-name wanker thinks!" How do you feel the phelps swim spa introduction went? I have a few questions for you. How many swim spas can a mid size Sundance dealer sell in 12 months? (We go to 3 home shows and 1 fair) we sell 100-200 spas a year. Do they all require crane delivery? Have you always sold masters? do you sell anything else now besides masters? How many do you need to display to be effective? Does masters send you a lot of leads? what % are swim spa leads? Do they make you do spa shows? Is the swim spa market really growing? Our spas sales are flat. Do swim spas take sales away from your spa sales? or do they take away from pool sales? Do you sell pools? or is it a different buyer? Masters gets a bad rap on this forum, many are competitors, but do they deserve any of it? Do they help out with dealer support? I'm on the west coast and we hate the Yankees, Celtics and Patriots because they are successful. The Balboa rep said that Masters was probably their biggest customer. Do you know of a lot of dealers that have been burned by masters? Do they have a nice factory? They invited me out there. How are their lead times? I have an open mind. Sundance has been good to me but they have no swim spa. We added saunas a few years back and they have kept us profitable. You can send me a private email if you are concerned of any fallout from masters over your answers. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Spa Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 WOW! I usually get $250 to $400 for attending a focus group and answering fewer questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSundance Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 WOW! I usually get $250 to $400 for attending a focus group and answering fewer questions. Do you sell swim spas? If so, what is your advice on them? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreg Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I'll make sure to tell Dan Schechner, the author of the article from Pool and Spa News, that you think he is a liar. At first he will probably be annoyed. But then he will probably say, "why do I care what this no-name wanker thinks!" How do you feel the phelps swim spa introduction went? I have a few questions for you. How many swim spas can a mid size Sundance dealer sell in 12 months? (We go to 3 home shows and 1 fair) we sell 100-200 spas a year. Do they all require crane delivery? Have you always sold masters? do you sell anything else now besides masters? How many do you need to display to be effective? Does masters send you a lot of leads? what % are swim spa leads? Do they make you do spa shows? Is the swim spa market really growing? Our spas sales are flat. Do swim spas take sales away from your spa sales? or do they take away from pool sales? Do you sell pools? or is it a different buyer? Masters gets a bad rap on this forum, many are competitors, but do they deserve any of it? Do they help out with dealer support? I'm on the west coast and we hate the Yankees, Celtics and Patriots because they are successful. The Balboa rep said that Masters was probably their biggest customer. Do you know of a lot of dealers that have been burned by masters? Do they have a nice factory? They invited me out there. How are their lead times? I have an open mind. Sundance has been good to me but they have no swim spa. We added saunas a few years back and they have kept us profitable. You can send me a private email if you are concerned of any fallout from masters over your answers. Thanks. I think the intro went very well. It was a great opportunity to speak with Michael Phelps and Bob Bowman in person about the product and it's benefits. As for the list of questions, here goes... I don't know, No, No Depends on the size of your showroom, yes, not sure but the leads will probably double No, Yes No, Sometimes, No, Sometimes No, Yes they help very much No, Yes, Lead times are very reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterbear Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Why does my mind keep flashing on George Foreman and his grill (which he actually had nothing to do with other then selling his name to Salton Inc., the original maker that approached him to endorse it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreg Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I really like the optional underwater camera. Imagine watching the technique of your strokes, and being able to make adjustments as necessary to perfect your mechanics. I think competitive swimmers will find this very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I really like the optional underwater camera. Imagine watching the technique of your strokes, and being able to make adjustments as necessary to perfect your mechanics. I think competitive swimmers will find this very helpful. That's what they use in the olympic sized pools they all train in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreg Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I really like the optional underwater camera. Imagine watching the technique of your strokes, and being able to make adjustments as necessary to perfect your mechanics. I think competitive swimmers will find this very helpful. That's what they use in the olympic sized pools they all train in! . Not everyone has the luxury of an Olympic size pool in their backyard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Not everyone has the luxury of an Olympic size pool in their backyard! And training in a swim spa is nothing more than a work out. No matter what brand it is and no matter what BS marketing was used to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreg Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 We all appreciate your opinion, but if you think all swim spas are created equal, you have a lot of homework to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 We all appreciate your opinion, but if you think all swim spas are created equal, you have a lot of homework to do And we all aprperciate your salesmanship. But to try and sell a swim spa by saying that Micheal Phelps uses one to train for the olympics is one of the biggest loads of bull I have seen in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreg Posted November 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Well,gee wiz, Roger, I have read and reread this thread and cannot find anyone claiming that Phelps is using this to train for the Olympics. I highly doubt that ANYONE but Michael and Bob Bowman know what his training regimen is. While there is a unit installed in his training center in Baltimore, I can neither confirm nor deny your claim that he uses it to train for the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Well,gee wiz, Roger, I have read and reread this thread and cannot find anyone claiming that Phelps is using this to train for the Olympics. I highly doubt that ANYONE but Michael and Bob Bowman know what his training regimen is. While there is a unit installed in his training center in Baltimore, I can neither confirm nor deny your claim that he uses it to train for the Olympics. Here let me do it for you, he uses an olympic sized pool to train. Then he kicks back and smokes a joint when he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottubdan Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Well,gee wiz, Roger, I have read and reread this thread and cannot find anyone claiming that Phelps is using this to train for the Olympics. I highly doubt that ANYONE but Michael and Bob Bowman know what his training regimen is. While there is a unit installed in his training center in Baltimore, I can neither confirm nor deny your claim that he uses it to train for the Olympics. Here let me do it for you, he uses an olympic sized pool to train. Then he kicks back and smokes a joint when he's done. And that's a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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