h2oski Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I have been researching buying a new hot tub for several months now and recently came across this site and I am thankful I did, as there is a wealth of information on it. I actually almost got suckered into the Master Spa. I have looked at Master Spas, Down East, Hot Springs, Vita, and Sundance and have yet to look at the Marquis. So far I like the Sundance Cameo the best. The Sundance Dealer has also been the most knowledgeable,professional, and seems more concerned about my needs vs. putting me into a hot tub. While we were discussing where I wanted to put this hot tub the sales person offered to send out one of their people to do an on site evaluation to make sure they could install it where I wanted it. I thought that was a great idea since it will be a little tricky to get the Cameo to where I want it. They will be here Thursday to check things out. The problem I have at this point is the Sundance dealer will not fill a Cameo for me to wet test. I only asked in passing and didn't push it, as I don't want to put the cart before the horse if it doesn't fit where I want it to go. They have two models, one Optima and Majesta I think that are used for their wet tests. The only difference that I see between these is that I won't be able to experience their lounger. I have a lounger in the tub I have now and both my wife and I enjoy using it. I am 6" and my wife is 5' 10" so I think based on the reviews I have read hear the Cameo lounger will fit us well. Should I put up a stink and demand a wet test of the Cameo before buying it? Based on the research I have done on here the package price that people have been paying is between $9000 and $10,000 not including tax. They basically told me they could give me a 2008 for the 2007 pricing. They offered me the Cameo with cover, cover lift, steps, chemicals, and delivery for the 2007 price of $10,150. The 2008 package price that is marked clearly on the tub was $10,800. The only option for this tub is a stereo and they quoted $1500 so I will be passing on that. I can put together a better outdoor stereo system for half of that. This dealer has a good reputation in my area so I am comfortable with the service in the future that I will receive. My plan is to tell them that if they knock it down to $9500 I will pay cash for the entire purchase. Do you think that is a reasonable offer? Please don't turn this into you should buy this other model thread or a bashing of the Sundance brand as I have read all the Sundance bashing and don't need to reread it hear. Thanks h2oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger_22 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Sounds like a good deal. We wet tested the Cameo and Majesta at a dealer by us and I really enjoyed them. I preferred the Sundance models over the Hot Springs models we also tested. Hope you can get the deal your looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rage'n Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Sounds like a good deal. We wet tested the Cameo and Majesta at a dealer by us and I really enjoyed them. I preferred the Sundance models over the Hot Springs models we also tested. Hope you can get the deal your looking for. I dont know what part of the country your in, but in las vegas i just purchased a 2007 optima for 9500 + tax .Dealer price was 14,749 + hope that helps plus the wet test was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingSpaGuy Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 there is a price increase every year, 9500 would be a really good deal...give it a shot what can it hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 My wife and I will be wet testing the Marquis Epic and the Sundance tonight to make our final decision. I got a price from the local Marquis dealer for an Epic Signature Collection with the CoverMate III, steps, and delivery for just under $9500. I also have a $200 coupon that I got from the Marquis website, I don't know if it will apply though as this price seems pretty good already. They both seem like really nice tubs, but the Sundace Cameo has the lead prior to the wet test. Hopefully the wet test will make our final decision for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 We wet tested a few different Sundance models tonight along with the Marquis Epic. We think we want to buy the Cameo but I have a question that I hope people here can answer for me. The dealer quoted me $10,164 for the Cameo with Cover, Cover Lift, steps and delivery. It does not inlcude the CD ozone. I forgot to ask how much they wanted for the ozone. The sales person felt that the ozone was not a necessary option. Should I add the ozone as an option? Thanks h2oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailhooker Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 We wet tested a few different Sundance models tonight along with the Marquis Epic. We think we want to buy the Cameo but I have a question that I hope people here can answer for me. The dealer quoted me $10,164 for the Cameo with Cover, Cover Lift, steps and delivery. It does not inlcude the CD ozone. I forgot to ask how much they wanted for the ozone. The sales person felt that the ozone was not a necessary option. Should I add the ozone as an option? Thanks h2oski Did you finally pull the trigger, and if so how much? Cameo is on my short list too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IL Parrothead Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Did you finally pull the trigger, and if so how much? Cameo is on my short list too. And Epic is on mine! I know MarkWindsurfer just bought his Epic today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 h2oski Did you finally pull the trigger, and if so how much? Cameo is on my short list too. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I have been enjoying our new hot tub. I ended up getting a new 2007 Sundance Cameo with Stereo, Cover, Steps, Chemicals and delivery for $7250. Delivery was just basic delivery to my house. I had to get my friends over to help me get it onto my deck. He didn't have the covermate III that I wanted so he gave me the steps and I purchased the cover lift myself. I bought the tub from a dealer 10 hrs away. The dealer is getting out of the buisness for some personal resons and is selling off his inventory at basically his cost. I know he has a couple of Maxxus tubs left but I don't know if he has any Cameos. The best price I could get from my local dealer was $9800 for the same setup without a stereo. We really like the Cameo so far. The only problem I have had was with the piece of crap remote. The second day I was using it the remote quit working. I opened the battery compartment thinking maybe the battery might have been dead to find the remote full of water. The dealer I bought the tub from is sending me a new one. I have a Balboa Dolphin and I hadn't gotten around to programing it to work with the hot tub features. The Balboa remote I think is significantly better when it comes to water intrusion. There are two things about the tub that I wish were different now that I have spent some time in it. First I wish there was one seat opposite the filter that was a little shallower. I guess I could lower the water level, but then the shallow seats become really shallow. The other thing is that I can't stand the shoulder jets. In order to get them to massage my shoulders/neck I have to slouch, I am 6ft. Then whenever you move they spray water everywhere. I have a LCD tv a few feet from the tub so now I just leave them turned off. Overall I would highly recommend the tub. The jet action is great and the seats are very comfortable. It holds temperature very well also. My friends and I were in it for about 5 hrs yesterday with the temp set to 101 and it never got lower than 100 with the outside temp in the 20s. It is also very quiet. I can't hear the tub running when I am inside. I have been using it a lot since we hooked it up I am a little scared to see what my electric bill is going to be. Good luck h2oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailhooker Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Are the shoulder jets a big enough problem that you might have reconsidered. I also noticed that the jets are under water and (I am 6'3")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Are the shoulder jets a big enough problem that you might have reconsidered. I also noticed that the jets are under water and (I am 6'3")? Probably not. I still really like the tub even with these jets off. If you haven't already I would wet test the Cameo and see what you think of the shoulder jets. When we wet tested the Cameo I actually liked the shoulder jets, but I only used them for about a minute so I didn't really notice how much I was slouching in the chair to get them to hit my shoulders. I am 6 ft so with you being 6' 3" I am guessing they will probably be hitting you in the upper back compared to the shoulders. Good luck with your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa Dealer in Seymour Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I have been researching buying a new hot tub for several months now and recently came across this site and I am thankful I did, as there is a wealth of information on it. I actually almost got suckered into the Master Spa. I have looked at Master Spas, Down East, Hot Springs, Vita, and Sundance and have yet to look at the Marquis. So far I like the Sundance Cameo the best. The Sundance Dealer has also been the most knowledgeable,professional, and seems more concerned about my needs vs. putting me into a hot tub. While we were discussing where I wanted to put this hot tub the sales person offered to send out one of their people to do an on site evaluation to make sure they could install it where I wanted it. I thought that was a great idea since it will be a little tricky to get the Cameo to where I want it. They will be here Thursday to check things out. The problem I have at this point is the Sundance dealer will not fill a Cameo for me to wet test. I only asked in passing and didn't push it, as I don't want to put the cart before the horse if it doesn't fit where I want it to go. They have two models, one Optima and Majesta I think that are used for their wet tests. The only difference that I see between these is that I won't be able to experience their lounger. I have a lounger in the tub I have now and both my wife and I enjoy using it. I am 6" and my wife is 5' 10" so I think based on the reviews I have read hear the Cameo lounger will fit us well. Should I put up a stink and demand a wet test of the Cameo before buying it? Based on the research I have done on here the package price that people have been paying is between $9000 and $10,000 not including tax. They basically told me they could give me a 2008 for the 2007 pricing. They offered me the Cameo with cover, cover lift, steps, chemicals, and delivery for the 2007 price of $10,150. The 2008 package price that is marked clearly on the tub was $10,800. The only option for this tub is a stereo and they quoted $1500 so I will be passing on that. I can put together a better outdoor stereo system for half of that. This dealer has a good reputation in my area so I am comfortable with the service in the future that I will receive. My plan is to tell them that if they knock it down to $9500 I will pay cash for the entire purchase. Do you think that is a reasonable offer? Please don't turn this into you should buy this other model thread or a bashing of the Sundance brand as I have read all the Sundance bashing and don't need to reread it hear. Thanks h2oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa Dealer in Seymour Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I have been researching buying a new hot tub for several months now and recently came across this site and I am thankful I did, as there is a wealth of information on it. I actually almost got suckered into the Master Spa. I have looked at Master Spas, Down East, Hot Springs, Vita, and Sundance and have yet to look at the Marquis. So far I like the Sundance Cameo the best. The Sundance Dealer has also been the most knowledgeable,professional, and seems more concerned about my needs vs. putting me into a hot tub. While we were discussing where I wanted to put this hot tub the sales person offered to send out one of their people to do an on site evaluation to make sure they could install it where I wanted it. I thought that was a great idea since it will be a little tricky to get the Cameo to where I want it. They will be here Thursday to check things out. The problem I have at this point is the Sundance dealer will not fill a Cameo for me to wet test. I only asked in passing and didn't push it, as I don't want to put the cart before the horse if it doesn't fit where I want it to go. They have two models, one Optima and Majesta I think that are used for their wet tests. The only difference that I see between these is that I won't be able to experience their lounger. I have a lounger in the tub I have now and both my wife and I enjoy using it. I am 6" and my wife is 5' 10" so I think based on the reviews I have read hear the Cameo lounger will fit us well. Should I put up a stink and demand a wet test of the Cameo before buying it? Based on the research I have done on here the package price that people have been paying is between $9000 and $10,000 not including tax. They basically told me they could give me a 2008 for the 2007 pricing. They offered me the Cameo with cover, cover lift, steps, chemicals, and delivery for the 2007 price of $10,150. The 2008 package price that is marked clearly on the tub was $10,800. The only option for this tub is a stereo and they quoted $1500 so I will be passing on that. I can put together a better outdoor stereo system for half of that. This dealer has a good reputation in my area so I am comfortable with the service in the future that I will receive. My plan is to tell them that if they knock it down to $9500 I will pay cash for the entire purchase. Do you think that is a reasonable offer? Please don't turn this into you should buy this other model thread or a bashing of the Sundance brand as I have read all the Sundance bashing and don't need to reread it hear. Thanks h2oski Hello I am not sure where you are from. If you are in CT I have a deal for you on a 2007 Cameo with a stereo. Let me know Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 h2oski- Sounds like a great price! Where are you located? We are in L.A., Calif. area and are considering a Cameo also. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterboy Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 We were quoted 10,300 Canadian + taxes delivered to our house for the 2008 cameo. This included the ozone, cover and lifter plus chemicals. I am 6 feet tall and the louger and other deep seat were a good fit. I could not decide whether I really wanted the lounger and I also wanted a more powerful calf and hip massage so we went with the Pacific Calypso as we got a good deal on the floor model. We wet tested 10 spas and the Cameo came in second. It is a good spa and I do not think you can go wrong with it. It is a large purchase though and I do not think you are being pushy to ask to wet test it first. Good luck and happy soaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatech (the unreal one) Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 The problem I have at this point is the Sundance dealer will not fill a Cameo for me to wet test. I only asked in passing and didn't push it, as I don't want to put the cart before the horse if it doesn't fit where I want it to go. They have two models, one Optima and Majesta I think that are used for their wet tests. The only difference that I see between these is that I won't be able to experience their lounger. I have a lounger in the tub I have now and both my wife and I enjoy using it. I am 6" and my wife is 5' 10" so I think based on the reviews I have read hear the Cameo lounger will fit us well. Should I put up a stink and demand a wet test of the Cameo before buying it? Please don't turn this into you should buy this other model thread or a bashing of the Sundance brand as I have read all the Sundance bashing and don't need to reread it hear. Thanks h2oski I didn't think there was much Sundance bashing and if you're sold on Sundance there's no need to mention other brands so to your question, I'm not sure I would "put up a stink" but I would let them know how serious I am (go as far as finalizing an offer). Then say you're ready to buy but really need to wet test to feel comfortable. They may not bite but you should at least give it a real push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bduggan Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Would you share the name and contact info for the dealer you purchased the spa from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailhooker Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Did you finally pull the trigger, and if so how much? Cameo is on my short list too. And Epic is on mine! I know MarkWindsurfer just bought his Epic today. In my area they are showing $8995 for 2008 but no stereo or ozone...don't even know about the extras (cover, steps, lift, chemicals) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey64 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 SPA Dealer Michael- I'm starting to look, and the Optima is one I'm looking at. What are looking to get for it? Mark in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brothersean Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 SPA Dealer Michael- I'm starting to look, and the Optima is one I'm looking at. What are looking to get for it? Mark in NJ Hi Huey64, "Spa Dealer in Seymour" is blowing out an 07 Optima. Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potpie Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Just did paperwork for a 07 optima in minnesota(no radio) for 8300 woulda been 1000 extra for stereo its funney how prices varry this included cover lift ,chems (6mo) delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spa Dealer in CT Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 SPA Dealer Michael- I'm starting to look, and the Optima is one I'm looking at. What are looking to get for it? Mark in NJ Hello Mark, Sean is right we do have a Optima for sale. It is a 2007 with stereo, Ipod, Ozone, Cover. It has a Platinum Shell and a Mahogany Cabinet. And we do have it filled so you can wet test it. Let me know if you have any questions. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailhooker Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Are the shoulder jets a big enough problem that you might have reconsidered. I also noticed that the jets are under water and (I am 6'3")? Probably not. I still really like the tub even with these jets off. If you haven't already I would wet test the Cameo and see what you think of the shoulder jets. When we wet tested the Cameo I actually liked the shoulder jets, but I only used them for about a minute so I didn't really notice how much I was slouching in the chair to get them to hit my shoulders. I am 6 ft so with you being 6' 3" I am guessing they will probably be hitting you in the upper back compared to the shoulders. Good luck with your decision. Love the look of this spa and the dry test was good. Waiting to wet test, just very concerned that I can't get a good neck massage in this model with out slouching in the lounger or seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 We just ordered an 08 Cameo. I am 6'2" and long in the torso and quickly found out that fit was going to be one of the biggest selling points for us. We tried lots of different brands and models and I preferred the fit of the Cameo the best. The lounge and seats fit me better than the rest. The neck jets may require slight slouching but not much. Definitely try it wet first and see what you think. The final price was just over $9K with everything including ozone (ozone is an extra item). Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey64 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Hello Mark, Sean is right we do have a Optima for sale. It is a 2007 with stereo, Ipod, Ozone, Cover. It has a Platinum Shell and a Mahogany Cabinet. And we do have it filled so you can wet test it. Let me know if you have any questions. Michael Thanks Miachael. Being about 2 hours away doesn't bother me much if I can get a good price. What's the price? Also, how would we handle the servicing, can I just get a local dealer to handle any service issues? You can reach me at mhuseth@cpcus.jnj.com to make it quicker and easier. Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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