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bredwrd

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  1. It's commonly repeated that sodium bromide has been banned in Canada, that Health Canada considers bromine to be unsafe for hot tubs, and other such things. While it is true that certain sodium bromide products have been found to have health risks, and banned for sale by regulations from Health Canada, the truth is that sodium bromide is still legal, and found to be safe by Health Canada for other uses including the main bromine method found in this forum. The following sodium bromide products/applications have been banned by Health Canada: sodium bromide spa products used in combination with potassium monopersulfate (MPS) sodium bromide swimming pool and spa products used in combination with electrolysis, ozonation or UV That's it. If you are using sodium bromide in a spa without using electrolysis (saltwater generator), ozonation, UV, or MPS, then Health Canada has not only deemed use of sodium bromide legal, but safe as well. From Health Canada: With respect to human health, risks of concern were identified for the use of sodium bromide products used in combination with bromine electrolysis devices and sodium bromide spa sanitizers used in combination with potassium monopersulfate. No risks of concern were identified for all other uses of sodium bromide when used according to the revised label directions. Also when used according to the revised label directions, sodium bromide is not expected to pose risks of concern to the environment. Liquid chlorine (bleach) is supposed to be better at activating bromide into bromine with fewer dissolved solids (sulphites) anyway, so that's generally not recommended on this forum anyway. To my understanding, neither ozonation or UV are particularly useful, and certainly not necessary for a bromine spa, so if your tub is so equipped and you'd like to use bromine legally and safely, you could feel free to disable or remove the UV/ozonation equipment. So why is pure sodium bromide hard to find, then? My guess is that electrolysis and MPS formed the majority of applications for bromine, and these applications are now not permitted. Secondly, I think a lot of the misinformation and confusion about sodium bromide has led people to thinking that it's not allowed in Canada, and that they shouldn't be buying it, further decreasing the demand for it in stores. Finally, the Health Canada regulations require labeling to the effect that sodium bromide shouldn't be used in combination with electrolysis, ozonation or UV, and I imagine that manufacturers and retailers have determined that it isn't worth the hassle to update product labels for the admittedly small market for sodium bromide. The good news is that since it's legal, it's still possible to find and order sodium bromide, despite it being more difficult to find in stores, and still safe for use as long as you are using it as directed, without MPS, ozonation, or UV. TL;DR- Sodium bromide is still legal and safe to use in Canada without MPS, ozonation, and UV; it's just harder to find.
  2. To those of you using this system, how is holding up? Specifically, have any of the pump components degraded due to exposure of concentrated bleach over time? How are you providing 120 V to the system in a safe manner, i.e. > 6 ft from the water's edge? The product description says it comes with 17 ft of hose with 20 ft of max head (vertical) so it seems like the safest option is to have the pump far away from the tub and use the hose, rather than an extension cord, to get the bleach into the tub. I don't see any link to the instructions to this product; is it possible to set it up like this? I too have an ozonator (UV) and am already weary of the daily Chlorine dosing required to keep FCl at >= 1-2 ppm. I'm eager to try an easier way! 😀
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