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  1. I’m looking at replacing the top side since I can’t find a proper overlay. The VL200 has the same controls as mine but in a 4 button layout rather than 5. The temp is controlled by 1 button rather than 2. Would this be a plug and play replacement or is changing top sides much more complicated or just not possible?
  2. Thanks guys. I’m up and running. I can’t thank you enough. If you were closer I’d buy you a beer at least. The service you gave me was above and beyond. Thanks again. The 220 motor is so much more powerful, yes but also much quieter. Now back to the control panel. Are you sure on the model number you gave? I looked it up. It is a 6 button and even if i installed it so that one of the buttons was redundant, the placement of the buttons is different than mine? Suggestions?
  3. Ok guys. I think you got it. I bought the wrong damn pump. But no worries. I have everything reassembled and ready for power. If I go with your dip instructions it ends up being just number 2 is up. The rest are down. Is this correct?
  4. Holy ****. Now I’m into dips? You guys aren’t trying to fry me are you? Your talking to a guy that knows little to nothing about electrical. Yah, I’m one of those guys. I just play around til things work but 220 is a not one to mess with. This project was supposed to be just plug and play items. I might be getting in over my head. 🙃
  5. Yah. The fuse is out. Like I said I had written this pak off. Had it all taken out of the tub And salvaged the fuse to put in the $50 pak I bought. Guess I know what I’m doing this weekend now. Again have no idea how I might have moved wires in the pak. But willing to give your suggestion a try. Do you know if I can get Replacement top side overlays for older units?
  6. Thanks guys for giving this any attention. I had written off this board but the fact that you keep providing input gives me hope. You must really like doing this. Guys like me really appreciate guys like you. Anyway, here is a pic of my vs504 board and a pic of its diagram. If you still feel like diagnosing, please have at it. I’m really curious as to what you think. If the wires in the box are not in the right place, I can’t explain it. It worked well with the old motor and I did not touch any wires in the box when I installed the new pump.
  7. @CanadianSpaTech Order of testing. 1. A physical test - everything wired up and plugged in as it should be. No load. Motor responded perfectly to commands from the top side. 2. Physical test with water load. Pump would circulate but would not go into high gear. Labouring and getting quite hot. 3. Meter test at the female plug on circuit board at Pump 1. Meter indicated that only 110 was being sent to the motor. Electrician (admittedly not tub repairman) thought relay must have been faulty. 4. Physical test with water load - motor plugged into Pump 2 position. Lots of power at the motor. But of course no control to circulate only. 5. Meter test at Pump 2 plug - indicated 220 going to the motor. That concluded the amount of testing performed. By the way, not that it matters. I, too, am Canadian. I'm surprised we don't know each other!! 😉
  8. @RDspaguy @CanadianSpaTech if you figure it’s not the relay, then what do you suspect it would be. When I changed the motor, I didn’t touch any wiring in the pak and very sure that I was attaching wires to the new motor just as they were on the old motor (by label, not necessarily by placement). When turned on, the pump would circulate but wouldn’t Go into second gear to prime. But when I take the load of the water off it would function just fine. I had an electrician friend put his meters on everything and he came to the conclusion that there was not 220 coming out of the primary relay. When we took the wire harness off of the primary relay and hooked it into the pump 2 relay it had lots of power but of course had no control to just circulate. Now secondly, I haven’t been in the game long enough to have any brand preference and have only priced replacing with what it had (Balboa). If you were to change for another brand (say Gheko) What model would you go with for what I have described my system to be. Please keep in mind that I need a small control pad. The fibreglass platform on the tub will not allow for a large pad. (Which I might add, I discovered That problem today with the $50 used one that I bought - damn!!)
  9. Everything Intex related seems sold out everywhere! Is this company still manufacturing at all?
  10. Good day folks. I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to fixing hot tubs but I am handy and certainly like tinkering to get things to work that most would walk away from. With that said, I have inherited a small two man hot tub. Last year, I had to have the motor rebuilt and while it was out of the tub, I replaced the wet end. Things ran very well last summer. In December the motor quit again. So I winterized the tub and waited til this spring to work on it again. I ordered a brand new motor (identical to the original Waterway 3hp 2x2 148 frame) Hooked it up but couldn't get it to work properly under load. Without load it worked fine. I determined the problem to be the primary relay that wasn't allowing 220 to get to the motor. It ran well without load because 110 was enough to operate it. So now I make the decision to just replace the circuit board or go hog wild and replace the whole pak because who knows how much life the heater has in it. I priced new circuit boards - approx. $450. I priced new paks and for mine is around $650. Then low and behold I come across a used pak that appears in great condition for $50 so I pick it up on a whim. Now I need to know if I can make it work. Here is my original system - VS504sz running the 3hp 2 speed waterway motor. Here is the new pak - CS504sz that was running 2 motors (came with it's original top side control). The question now is, can I configure this spa pak to run my one motor system. If so, are you able to describe exactly what I need to do to set up the configuration? ex. Move wires, change dip switch settings etc. If this is not possible, I get it. But for $50 it didnt break the bank to try. Thanks in advance for any help. Mark
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