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  1. Thank you again and for that link to Chem Geek's post. I replied to him with a few questions but read he may not post to that forum nowadays.
  2. Richard, (Chem geek) Thank you so much for sharing your incredible knowledge on this forum as well as the TFP forum. I have a few questions I hope you will answer: 1. Does a silver ion generator (silver and copper ions) accomplish the same thing as using a mineral approach like Nature2 and should one follow the same MPS regimen before and after use to get that benefit from a silver ion generator? One drawback it seems to me would be the inability to "measure" the silver ions (for most of us) so adding silver (Nature2) ions every few months would seem to provide some assurance they are actually present. 2. Is maintaining PH important for silver ions in the presence of 104 degree water with MPS to work? In my case we almost never use our Jacuzzi and have always drained it and reestablished bromine, PH and TA before using it again (a real pain!). My goal is to find a solution that would keep the water safe (germ free) for months without having to balance PH and TA and bromine levels constantly so I wouldn't have to drain it the next time we decide to use it. I would just reestablish bromine level and balance PH and TA before each use. Would that work? Would I still need to add MPS before and after use if I reestablish the bromine (or chlorine) level each time? I've read bromine can't be used with Nature2 so is that true of a silver ion generator too? I guess that was more than 2 questions. Thanks, Nick
  3. dlleno, Thank you. I appreciate the information and personal experience you have shared. Since I have always used bromine in the Jacuzzi (but chlorine in the pool) I like the idea of an ozone generator and bromine. I plan to start the ahh-some purges as soon as I get it back in commission. I just replaced the recirculation pump and the plumber cracked my filter housing so I have to replace it and fix a leak at one joint he failed to glue properly. (He's not a REAL plumber.) Before I do that (will do myself this time) I want to decide on an ozone generator and/or silver ion generator and plumb it in at the same time. I think I read somewhere that silver ion generators aren't compatible with bromine but I'm not sure why. Since your ozone system came with your spa I assume you don't have a brand and model to recommend? I "think" my Jacuzzi Meridian is 450 gallons but need to look that up to be sure. Right after I bought it (1988) I discovered the Jacuzzi "name" had been bought by one of those conglomerates (they owned a piano company too) and even though it had the Jacuzzi trademark it did NOT have genuine Jacuzzi nozzels with center air injection. Luckily that was before I had it installed so I added another pump with two nozzles one of which is adjustable to be sure it matched the REAL Jacuzzi hydrotherapy graphs with the right horsepower and flow. I hope to get it all working again and have a new Len Gordon controller to install since the old one is so rusted and probably not working. We used to keep chlorine in the same room outside with the Jacuzzi equipment which was NOT a good idea. Once I fix the leaks and install the new controller I hope to find everything else works but realize the air buttons or lines that operate the control may need replacing too. I think I am on my third RayPak 12Kw heater and so far it hasn't come on with the pump running. It's supposed to be a 36 gpm pump (Laing high efficiency) and the heater is supposed to only need 15 gpm so I may find that something else in the heater has failed. I realize I need the heater and jets working before I can start the ahh-some purges. I say "purges" with a "s" since as old as it is I am sure it will require multiple purges. Thanks again and if you know anyone on the forum with knowledge of silver ion generators please ask them to comment.
  4. Thank you. Our Jacuzzi is inside in a dedicated room adjacent to (but unfortunately not connected to) our exterior pool so the cover doesn't get direct sun exposure but it is under a clear glass skylight. I say "unfortunately" not connected to the pool since I keep the pool balanced and sanitized with a saturation index very near zero (although cold) year round. Which ozone generator do you have and would you recommend it? Also if anyone with experience with silver ion generators can comment I'd appreciate knowing if silver ions might keep the water sterile or if a Nature2 cartridge every few months would do the same thing as far as killing bacteria? My goal (if possible) is to be able to go for months with something that keeps the water germ free and then when we decide to use it I will rebalance it (PH, hardness and TA and sanitizer - probably bromine) before use. Somewhere I read both ozoneators and silver ion generators would keep the water safe if no one was in it but you need an active sanitizer to kill germs before they can move from one person to another. In other words the water would be safe when you got in it but it wouldn't kill a germ introduced by another person (or a dirty bug) unless the sanitizer level was restored. And of course that means getting the PH right so the sanitizer can work. Is that true?
  5. I would "greatly" appreciate your advice on how to accomplish this objective (if its possible): Since we almost never use our 1988 Jacuzzi Meridian spa I don’t spend the time managing the sanitizer level and PH and TA during months of no use. Consequently when we decide to use it I have always had to drain it and refill and reestablish sanitizer (Bromine). I’d like a solution (perhaps a silver ion generator and/or ozonator?) that would maintain the water safe for months of no use and then allow me to reestablish the sanitizer, PH and TA levels when we get ready to use it and not have to drain it every time. Is there a way to accomplish my objective using Ahh-some initially (probably several repeated purges as it is quite old and probably very clogged up with gunk and biofilms) and again every 6 months in conjunction with a product like a silver ion generator? Again, I would reestablish Bromine or Chlorine levels and PH and TA “before” allowing a bather to use it. Or would something added to the water like the Nature2 filter cartridges accomplish this? I am a little reluctant to use an ozone generator out of concern it might cause the vinyl covered spa cover to disintegrate. Is that a valid concern? Thanks.
  6. I'm looking for advice: We seldom use our Jacuzzi Meridian Spa so adding bromine or chlorine daily is too much trouble. Consequently we neglect it and then have to drain and clean it before we can use it again. I am considering adding a silver/copper zinc ion generator and possibly an ozone generator if they would keep the water sterile and clear for months between uses. (NO bathers just months of filtration and ion generattio.) That way when we want to use it we would just add the active sanitizer (probably chlorine or bromine) before hand to bring it up to a 1 or 2 ppm level. I realize I'd still need to chek PH and TA and hardness, etc (I maintain our pool using a Taylor saturation index wheel) along and along but my main objective is to eliminate having to monitor bromine levels so often. Does anyone know if this would work? I might forego the ozone in favor of a weekly non-chlorine shock since I'm concerned the ozone might destroy the vinyl on the pool cover and perhaps the o-rings in the unions and pump. Also somewhere I read something that implied bromine might not work with an ion generator. Is that true? We use chlorine in the pool but have always used bromine in the Jacuzzi. I'd probably use Chlorox if I must use chlorine but again only when we plan to use it and right after. I am forced to use granular chlorine (calcium hypochlorite) in the pool as we don't have a local source for liquid chlorine at a reasonable cost for a 30K gallon pool and therefore have constantly rising hardness. Either that or dichlor and constantly rising cyanuric acid. I wish the Jacuzzi and pool were connected since I find it pretty easy to maintain the pool water but they are separate. Thanks for sharing any information.
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