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  1. You might want to fill it with water and see if it works...
  2. I don't think there's really a difference between a dedicated one or not if you have everything else shut off when you test the tub. Generally people have more appliances hooked up than they can turn on all at the same time, and it works out that way.
  3. I guess it's reachable if the pliers didn't just fall in place there. You might be able to cut a piece of pvc pipe to fit inside of it, and glue it in there with hose clamps over it on either side. Flexible pvc will adhere to the plumbing pvc that way, or you might want to cap/clamp it off, if that's simpler (presuming the drain valve is broken there). You can drain a tub with a garden hose without using a drain valve, by putting the hose in the bottom of the tub, turning on the hose for a few seconds to pressurize it, then turning the hose off and removing it from the faucet.
  4. Yeah, if it has to be something that breaks out of the box, it might as well be the rope, until you find something better (not too complicated).
  5. I don't get the impression that chlorine stays in water very long, so you might be able to let it correct itself. In my opinion it's best for it to be low when you're in the water, and added after you get out, then tested only before you get back in, so you won't have to worry about the quirkiness of a test strip until it matters (obviously it would tend to read high just after something was added). Maybe you could figure out how much you need by trail and error, since consulting a tech isn't working.
  6. Also, be sure to read the owner's manual, especially to check that it is set up for winter use, as some tubs have modes for different seasons. Other than that, something the manual may not mention is that you might want to warm yourself up before getting in when it's that cold out: "It is believed that a rapid change in body temperature, attributable to large differences between the bath water temperature and the ambient temperature in the dressing room, is a critical factor that is capable of inducing sudden death, particularly in elderly people"...
  7. Worth a try. 〰️ There's a fiberglass rope (as small as 1/8"), which should be chemical and temperature resistant like the spa shell material, I'd think. By the way, a chemical compatibility chart for nylon says it is probably of temporary usefulness in chlorine water (kind of like polypropylene): 1. Satisfactory to 72°F (22°C) C = Fair, Moderate Effect, not recommended for continuous use. Softening, loss of strength, or swelling may occur At least one chart says that fiberglass is excellent in chlorine water, though that isn't specific to the rope, and there are different types of fiberglass, so it isn't exactly clear to me. Another material is PTFE/Teflon, which is said to be excellent in chlorine water (and most other situations). Now it could be as simple as tying some teflon tape on it, since the thermometer is lightweight (you know, that isn't sticky tape, although it's usually in a little roll, and is sold in hardware stores).Teflon is used to coat other ropes to give them chemical resistance too, including fiberglass rope. Basically, fiberglass is for strength in extreme heat, and PTFE adds chemical protection up to its melting point, which is also high. They say teflon is not affected by UV either. So yeah, maybe now I know more uses of teflon tape (I've used it for a few things here and there).
  8. Okay, it looks like they list a network of repair contacts on that site with info about blisters.
  9. Bathing would not likely be bad for our health, to say the least, since Japanese people live longer lives than most, and coincidentally bathe more too: Preventive and promotive effects of habitual hot spa-bathing on the elderly in Japan They mentioned "balneotherapy" in that article, and there are other articles about stress reduction, rest, and recovery, relative to balneology... really (so are there balneologists)? Well, there's an association, anyway. Okay, so technically it has to do with mineral water, however one of the articles below puts it in context: "Balneotherapy causes local and generalized physiological effects in the organism, which are exerted through both physical mechanisms—mainly linked to heat therapeutic effects—and chemical and biological properties of the agents. While the former are well known, the latter are difficult to identify and assess. Indeed, as a result of the elevated application temperature—generally ranging from 38 to 42 °C—thermotherapeutic effects are the basis of these treatments." Interesting, and other than that, I gather it's important to stay sober and hydrated (with electrolytes and all) since thermoregulation (like sweating) is involved in the process of bathing, and passing out in a deep tub is something to prevent by avoiding imbalances, like dehydration. The highest risk factor for people having an adverse reaction to bathing is an extreme difference in temperature between the water and the air (especially in winter). So that's a kind of stress you'd want to reduce while bathing, perhaps by having an indoor hot tub, or warming up in a shower before getting in, and sitting partially immersed before getting out... there are other studies I linked about this in a topic to do with tub temperature. Just as an article above differentiates between severe heat stress and heat therapy, the activity of bathing is usually stress reducing, although it can be extremely stressful to homeostasis (as in life-threatening), especially if you're not careful. For instance, "A woman who knows or who may not yet be aware that she is pregnant should be advised of the recommended limits of exposure."
  10. There are adapters (or faucet diverters) for connecting a hose to an indoor sink...
  11. I was reading something about that before, here: Blisters... and there are more articles on the subject listed there. They say that harsh chemicals can be one of the contributing causes of blisters (and "the prevailing opinion about the mechanism would indicate water chemistry might affect the rate of blister formation", as could other environmental factors, especially if the spa is not very new).
  12. I don't see how floating up could be an issue, especially if it had arm rests, unless you were sitting on an inflatable raft, or something... look, anyone can float in water if they lay in a floating position. However, if you sit in the lounger properly, that isn't a floating position. You know what though, there was something funny in the news today: a "sitting coach", someone who spots you in the process and gives tips for how to sit down! It's like the latest kind of personal trainer... okay, well, seriously, the more you put your feet up, the more like a floating position that could be (especially if you had jets under them), so a bucket seat would be like a half lounger, where you might have more options for foot placement while reclining. Personally though, I don't even know why floating would be considered a problem, because I'll float in a tub on purpose some of the time, and it's one of those things people usually like to do in water. I mean imagine if someone asked what pool design would prevent them from floating... someone might suggest a pool table I guess.
  13. Imagine if you were describing that you occasionally had to clean off a shelf with a duster, because a film appeared on things sitting there, and no matter what you used to clean it, the film returned. Well yeah, it could have something to do with the fact that there is ALWAYS dirt in the air, and it gets around. To me this is like wondering why spraying air freshener doesn't prevent dust from settling. Has there ever been anything you can spray in the air to solve that problem? I don't see why you'd think it could be done in water either... it can't. I know that either the variety of spa fresheners or all this talk of "shock and awe" might give you that impression, but think about it...
  14. It seems that there has to be a greater concentration of bromine used to get the same result as chlorine (something like twice as much). 🛀 Maybe the problem with having a higher concentration of one versus the other would be the presence of more Trihalomethanes...
  15. I don't know if you'd necessarily want to remove them, because looking at where it is, maybe the cover is soaking up more water and dripping there, rather than it being a leak inside (wild guess).
  16. I think that 110v doesn't typically heat when the jets are on, or why would anyone hook up more power? The overview of mine says that the heater indicator flashes on its display when there is a request for more heat but the heater has not yet started. Basically it always flashes when the jets are on because there is not enough power to run the heater during that time (I suppose, since it doesn't say that it can't happen either, probably because it wouldn't be delayed indefinitely with more power). I can't say for sure about all of them, but would add that it isn't the only way to have both working at the same time, in essence. I've been pouring a few gallons of boiling water into mine to make it a few degrees hotter than it would get with more power hooked up to begin with (so in a way it's pathetic to use high power to maintain a relatively low temp of 104 degrees, compared to what hot tubs used to be). It doesn't maintain that temp indefinitely, but still gives me a better experience for using more power to heat a stovetop from time to time (since transferring water from that will bring my tub up to 108 degrees with the jets on, or less hot water could be added to bump it back up to 104 manually as such, it's pretty similar to a natural hot spring where boiling water trickles in, yet would be more regulated since I control how much of it does so, and am not sitting in there when it's flowing at a scalding temp). Anyway, as far as this simple minded opinion goes, I don't care if my spa heats while the jets are on, because I like it hotter than they allow spa heaters to work nowdays (and I think it's healthier if I don't solve that problem to the point where it's always hotter necessarily, because I researched the health aspects as well, and other people use it who could be more prone to overheating than I am). It's good that you were able to get it working too. Sounds like that's hooked up about right to me, if it's working, obviously... there are guides online for what the voltages should be on each wire, as you may well know (for troubleshooting the basic hookup, usually to do with a subpanel though). I'm mentioning the Gilligan's Island style heat your tub with volcano water concept also, because it was something I didn't consider when looking at hot tubs initially, besides their power options. Not that it's especially sophisticated but I think it's effective at least (and exchanges some fresh water in there more often, which could be healthier also). Okay so enough about that, this is like the third topic, because there was more than one reason I could think of for going about it retroactively (like I just discovered fire myself).
  17. Maybe the very best inflatable spas could float like an inflatable boat (who knew).
  18. Sounds like fun. Lately, I've been exchanging a few gallons of 104 degree water with fresh 200+ degree water each time I use a two person tub, in order to warm it up a few degrees past the granny setting. The water is being refreshed, as such, this seems to work pretty well for maintenance, instead of advanced techniques with chemicals. Of course, bathtubs don't use them because all of the water is changed out each time, so I think it follows that changing out some water in a hot tub is useful too, and I like it hotter, so I'm "bathing two birds with one bath", as it were. My theory is that I won't have to change all of the water out, as recommended when the chemicals become saturated, because the water will never be saturated this way, as long as I use the tub often and exchange some water in the process (I've tried testing it before and after, and it looks like the concentration of chemicals is lowered by mixing in fresh water, naturally, and if this is timed to where the chlorine is thinning out before I "rednecktify" my little hotspring from a stovetop, then I'm bathing in fresher water, which I'll add more chlorine to afterward). I've read that smaller tubs can be tricky to balance water in anyway, so maybe switching it out gradually is a good idea, even if this wasn't done for increasing the temperature. My spa would have its water volume recycled gradually over a span of 38 uses in that case, which would be more frequent than recommended in general, so the water should stay fresh enough without having to be reheated all at once. Anyway, my point was that water is one of the "products" I use too (and don't forget to add water, or even try experimenting with that).
  19. I liked the idea of adding a liquid, less likely to blow up in my face...
  20. Japanese monkeys typically soak in 106 degree hot springs, as boiling groundwater trickles in there (some areas are said reach temperatures above 122 degrees Fahrenheit)! I had something else to learn about bathing from this culture (of bath ninjas methinks). Monkey see, monkey do, as they say, because I also saw pictures of Japanese people in the onsens with a small towel over their heads. This turns out to be like the snow on a monkey's fur, as the cloth is often soaked in cold water. So I tried filling a large mixing bowl with ice water, and soaking a couple of bar towels in it (to change out and keep a cold one around my head and neck). It's very refreshing to bathe like a snow monkey! This also makes the water feel as if it's staying relatively hot, especially if I stand up to run an icy washcloth over my skin and sit back in it. That'll keep me from dozing off for sure, and is better than the fan I tried, because it blew water droplets in my eyes and cooled the tub down faster. I usually wring the cloth out too so it doesn't drip cold water in there... a fine tradition (I think I'm turning Japanese).
  21. There are some reviews in terms of years (on something similar maybe): https://www.amazon.com/Strong-Spas-SS14120300-G-2-Jet/product-reviews/B00CGWQYFK/?pageNumber=1&filterByKeyword=years I'd like to know how long the robe lasts though... nice fireplace! Never wear a robe around a wood fired tub by the way.
  22. Ah, I don't know if they are quieter nowdays (it doesn't seem loud to me). I think the water feels warmer with jets on, and the digital thermometer on mine doesn't seem to reflect me adding hot water until I turn them on (I tested it with another thermometer before getting in initially). Apparently a 120 degree cut off is to prevent burns, and mine flashes a warning at 108 (but I don't think it feels too hot): A hospital for example aims to limit outlets to "a maximum emitted water temperature of 45°C (113°F), with a failsafe "cut-off" temperature at 50°C (122°F)". I can sip 160 degree water from an insta hot tap without getting burned, the difference being duration and volume of exposure. It looks like some studies about bathing suggest that the risk of health complications from sudden changes in temperature may be more significant than the water temperature being 104 or below, so it probably helps to take a hot shower before getting in the tub, if ambient temperature is much colder than the water, and also to vary one's body position for more or less immersion in the tub, sitting with the upper body out of it, off and on, especially before getting out. There are said to be more tub related deaths (exceeding 10% of all sudden deaths) in Japan due to more people bathing there, and those occur most often in winter (6.9 times more frequently than in the summer). It seems that indoor hot tubs would be safest for that matter, regardless of there being a max temp of 104 on them either way (one is probably at higher risk in a 104 degree tub out in the cold than a 108 degree tub inside a warm room, as far as that goes). This is good to be aware of I think, and guess it helps that my tub gradually cools down after I add the hotter water (so by the time I want to get out, there isn't as big of a difference in temperature when I stand up—not that I'm so old, but as a general rule this could be better, along with moving around in there, to be less likely to pass out for whatever reason). Well I like the differences in temperature, such as having a fan blow cold air on my face or upper body while sitting in a hot tub, but that's probably less extreme than jumping in and out entirely or laying back submerged the whole time.
  23. So... what do you think too hot is? Just wondering what that might be for someone who can turn it up. After doing this a few times, the routine of switching out some water is making its quality nicer to soak in for me (like I figured it might). The chlorine is low while I'm in it, then high when I'm not, since I add more afterwards, and there's less and less buildup of residue too. Although, if I had a larger tub, I might have wanted to hack it somehow, instead of changing out more than a few gallons for hot water every time (of course, the larger the tub, the more water it takes to change the temp that way, and there are calculations for estimating it somewhere... I happened to have a couple of fat 12 qt stock pots that I used to soak my feet in, so this was simple enough to try out, with 10 quarts in each—I'll just bail a couple buckets out of the tub before hand, then carefully pour the pots along the middle without splashing). The average bathtub is said to hold 58 gallons, so this is around 1/12th of a tub full I'm adding for a similar effect (which is 1/38th of the hot tub volume—perhaps that's a rule of thumb, not sure).
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