Roger

Great tub with a great reputation. I've replaced 25 year old Jacuzzi pool pumps that were 25 years old and JB welded up.

Nice. I wish I had your drive.

I think he bought a Jac on a different thread.

I think I would shine it up and advertise for about 4 and be prepared to get less. Leave it running and hot and let people know they can bring their suits and try it out. Let them have some privacy while they use it.

You don't buy a hot tub because it has changeable jet packs. You buy a tub because it feels good, it is comfortable, The dealer will support you and the price feels good on your wallet.

Dimension One makes a great tub with a long standing reputation for quality, energy efficiency, longevity, reliability and awesome hydrotherapy. So does Jacuzzi. Both use integrity and customer service as their business model.

IMO Master Spa cooperate is a terrible, scummy, dishonest, no integrity company. And they allow their dealers to follow suit. They seem to make an overpriced, OK better than low end tub though and it's to bad they didn't pick the high road instead. They sell a lot of them here in Minnesota and they are notorious for high electric consumption, heavy jet pressure, big pumps and noisy. Any other options in your area?

 Roger - a couple of things to consider....as foam gets wet it actually loses its R-value resulting in loss of heat retention ability beginning day 1. The new cover design doesn't have this issue since it retains it's heat retention ability throughout its life since the foam is't exposed to water due to the polymer material that encapsulates the foam. Smartop was tested against vinyl covers and performed equally as well if not better in some cases with it's heat retention ability. To sum it up - vinyl covers depreciate beginning day 1 - Smartop's don't depreciate. You know all was fine until you spammed the thread with this BS sales pitch. Like I said, if the tub lasts for 15 years and lets say for the sake of this you buy a new foam cover every 5 years. Thats 3 covers for 4 hundo each or 1200 dollars. That means you have about 400 bucks in electricity that you'd better save and like I said it may be a push or it may even be more expensive in the long run to own your cover. Don't throw around BS about how your 1" of foam can insulate as good as a 5 to 3 tapered foam core cover because a 5-3 tapered cover will start getting wet on day 1. I have disposed of 7 year old foam core covers that weren't wet but were ripped and deteriorated and needed to be replaced. Not all foam core covers get wet and heavy until their life expectancy is reached so they insulate as good after 5 years as they do on day 1. I'd really like to see the data on how your 1" of foam insulated as well as 3"

While I love the look and the concept of your product. I wonder if the compromise in R-Value will not soon put the cost of a few new foam core covers a better value.

Of those mentioned I would put HS, Sundance and Jacuzzi at the top with Bullfrog coming in second. Cal behind that. Viking makes a good value type tub for a lot less than 8 grand but maybe not the longevity or fit and finish of the first three. I would never consider Ecco. If you have Marquis and D1 in your area I hold them in higher regard than HS, Sundance and Jacuzzi.

There are several brands that I hold in high regard. But unless you wet test, get comfortable with a dealer and a price your not giving us a lot to go on. Number one do not buy from an online dealer or a big box store unless you want mediocre or cheap. What brands are in your area?

What are the readings of your source water right out of the tap? The last place I had the water came from the tap needed nothing but a little baking soda to get it balanced. With that I used a small amount of dichlor after each soak and shocked about every other week with dichlor. Occasionally added more baking soda to keep it balanced. Seems pretty simple and inexpensive to me. I even went as far as putting a TBLS of dichlor in a bunch of old film containers. Then bring one out for the soak. Let us know what your water reads right now.

My personal opinion is that Caldera/Hot Springs are just as good if not better than Sundance/Jacuzzi. Dimension One and Marquis I hold in higher regard than all 4 of those others.

I have been trying to find out how he busted it off or it busted off. The ceramic is pretty tough but I suppose if you hit it hard with your elbow or bang the pump on it or....while your messin around in there.

How did the sensor break?

Cutting concrete and moving drain locations is not as difficult as it sounds.

I was being a smart ass sorry Des But I live next door!!

Keep looking.

What price do you put on your labor and how many hours do you have in it? Some people say they enjoy doing it so they don't put a price on their labor, but that's not fair to yourself. Looks nice.

You can use MPS to shock if it gets cloudy. But if you use it a lot I would shock it after every 5-6 soaks instead of waiting for it to get cloudy.

I would avoid as many chemicals as possible. But you need to sanitize your water or you will get infected with bacteria. Chlorine or Bromine are the only listed sanitizers. Choose one. Baking soda raises alkalinity and PH and acid lowers it. Get yourself a test kit or test strips. Don't use the tub any more until you have a sanitizer.

I'm not sure this is the right unit for your mom or if it is such a low cost.

What dealers are in your area? We can help you narrow it down. All of them will have models that will fit you. 7 Tons 14,000 lbs? Wow most tubs full are closer to 4000-6000 lbs.

15 amp jet pump moving 40 gpm on low running 4 hours a day equals 60 amp hours and 9600 gallons moved. 2 amp pump running for 24 hours moving 3 gpm equals 48 amp hours and moved 12,960 gallons. Depends on the system. In order to make any calculations we have to know gpm, pump amp draw, length of filter time. Either way works fine but a 24/7 circ pump usually is a small money saver. And they have a noise advantage. And with an ozonatator the longer it is injected into the water the better it works.

I had one of those vaults once. Sucked. Pretty much reached over the edge from my belly for a few hours working. Ended up getting a couple straps under it with a couple Johnson Bars and a high lift jack turned sideways and using a modified engine hoist to lift it out to dispose of it. I recommended they have the dealer install the new one. Haven't heard from them since, perfect salesmanship on that one.