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  1. Hi all. I had to learn the hard way. Two years ago I bought an eight person Cal Spa. The Spa was bought new from the local dealer. Since that time, the Spa has broken down on numerous occasions, and has cost a FORTUNE to run. Cal Spa's is crap, and good luck getting help from the Manufacturer, they have been worthless. I love having a spa, but I want to have a spa that is a spa, works like a spa, does not break down, has good manufacturer support, and does not cost a fortune to run. I know I could sell the spa in the paper, but that would be a hassle, and I am not going to lie about the trouble with this piece of crap spa. A spa manufacturer has the know how to recondition spas, even this crap spa. Thus, I was wondering if there are any companies that offer Trade-Ins to purchase a new spa. Does anyone know of a Manufacturer that offers a trade in for your old spa, which can be used to buy a New Spa?
  2. Yeah, I realize the amount of a trade is not going to get my money back. It is like a car trade in. But, at least I get a QUALITY Spa that will last 10 or more years and bring me enjoyment, and I learned a lesson, expensive, but I learned. Do you know of any manufacturers that offer a trade in program through their dealers?
  3. Thanks for the tip. However, there is not an Artic Dealer in my area.
  4. First, my sincere apologies to all Dealers on this Forum and Spa People who I took to task for selling spas at a higher price than Cal Spas. Well, If you use the search or archive features of the forum you can find a lot of posts from me from about a year to seven months ago. I chastised some of the dealers on here for high markups, I said, "a spa is a spa". Save money, find the the best deal. Well, there is nothing wrong with finding the best deal. A smart consumer should always find the best deal. BUT; YOU MUST BUY QUALITY! I have found out the hard way. My story is sad but true. I went and bought a Cal Spa, despite all the warnings from the good people on this forum, and I bought from a local dealer that was the third local dealer to become a Cal Spas Dealer. I saved probably three thousand from a comparable spa from one of the other major spa manufacturers. What an idiot! My spa has been breaking down constantly, the local dealer went out of business, Cal Spa has sent a repair person out, the spa gets repaired, something else goes wrong, and I am back to waiting for the repair person to come back out. Talk about frustrating! So, if I can, I have decided to cut my losses, dump the Cal Spa, and do what I should have done the first time; buy a quality spa from a quality Dealer. Does anyone know if there are any companies that have trade in incentives to buy their spas? Also, can I get some recommendations for Quality Spas? I need a spa that seats six or more. And, I want QUALITY!
  5. I think you are taking this way to personally. You brought up the "my neighbor story". I just pointed out that the "neighbor" story applies to all spa makes, not one in particular. This thread is kind of like the Costco Elite Spa thread. I saw a lot of Dealers and owners who had paid Thousands of dollars extra for their spa feel threatened by running down the Costco Spa in an attempt to justify their more expensive purchase. The Original Poster asked for experience with Cal Spas, all the owners of Cal Spas that have posted in this thread have all had positive experiences. I think that says it all.
  6. Yes, Cal Spas is selling a Lifestyle, kind of like BMW does, Starbucks does, Apple Computer, IBM, Disney, all of whom have many other subsidiaries, producing many other products, which compliment their main product. Since, they sell other productes, nobody better buy from those companies.
  7. It is unfair to compare a 5 year old spa with new spas. There have been innovations in the spa industry. As far as neighbor stories go, my neighbor has a four year old Hot Spring Tub, he says it is a piece of crap, dealer is worthless, it is for sale as is for $1500. So, I guess, everyone should avoid Hot Springs Tubs, right?
  8. No Service needed for my Cal Spa. I think the people who talk about their "great" Cal Spa Dealers are referring to the way they have been treated by the store, employees, the setup of spa was good, the instructions on how to use the spa were good, etc. Again, NO problems from my Cal Spa whatsoever.
  9. Well, I also just bought a Cal Spa, GREAT SPA! And, a great price compared to other spas. I think it is really comfortable. I bought the Classic 22S, Santa Barbara Model, seats seven, 22 jets. Paid $3900. It is an awesome Spa. There are a lot of dealers on this forum, and they are tout their spas as being the best, but the bottom line is there is no best spa. I love my Cal Spa, and the company is not going out of business anytime soon, since they are the biggest Spa/Outdoor Company in the Nation. I say to the original poster, if you like the Cal Spa, buy it. I love mine.
  10. Hi all. Does anyone have a source for buying a Spa Surround Wrap? I would like to have a Tile. Stone, or Granite Spa Surround Wrap, or a FAUX Tile, Stone, or Granite Surround Wrap. I have seen some in pictures and they look really nice. Is this something I can do myself, if so, where and what do I need to buy? Or, is this something I can purchase pre-made? If so, where?
  11. Sounds like you don't pay anything for hookup or very little. You are lucky! I forgot to add the number of feet in my original post, it is 100 feet. My post should have read: Well, I just got a quote for $1250, plus the GFCI box, the line has to run through my attic, across my house, down the rafters, so it will be hidden, than down the side of the wall, then about 10 feet undergroun to the Box; for a total of 100 feet. How does this sound? The electrician was recommend by the Spa Dealer.
  12. Well, I just got a quote for $1250, plus the GFCI box, the line has to run through my attic, across my house, down the rafters, so it will be hidden, than down the side of the wall, then about 10 feet undergroun to the Box. How does this sound? The electrician was recommend by the Spa Dealer.
  13. Spa 1 Jets 60 Pumps: 2 High Pressure 3 HP 220 GPM Pumps/One 2sp & One 1sp Pump & One 1sp 30 GPM 1/15th HP Circulation Pump Electrical Ratings: 240 Volt / 40 AMP / 50 AMP G.F.C.I (Energy Savings) Heater: 240 Volt Heater 6kW Ozone: Ultra-Pure Ozone System Filter: 24 Hour Crystal-Clear Filtration 100 SQ Foot System Pillows: Four Comfort Design Pillows Cover: Safety Locks Deluxe Cover 5"x 3" Tapered Foam Construction & Child Proof Safety Locks Extras: Waterfall, Stereo CD/AM/FM Radio System W/Pop Up Speakes and Cover Lift Lights Muti-Color LED Seats: 6 Adults Construction: Shell Insulated, Foam Barrier W/Full ABS Bottom and Maintenance Free Cabinet Liters 325 US Gallons (Average) Dimensions: 87"x 87"x 37" 87"x 87"x 37" Water Weight: 900 US Lbs. Filled Weight: 36110lbs Warranty Lifetime Spa Structural Warranty 10 Year Surface Warranty Lifetime Manifold Plumbing Warranty 2 Year Electrical Equipment Warranty Spa 2 Total Jets 25 Seating Capacity: 7 Person Dimensions: 93" x 93" x 39½" Dry Weight: 900 lbs Filled Weight: 5,065 lbs Water Capacity: 500 gal Control System: 6200 Smart Control Pack Power Supply: 240V * Heater: 5.5 kW XL Heat Exchanger Lighting: 1 x 12V Large Light w/ Clear, Red, and Blue Lenses Safety System: True Blue Safety Suction System * Booster Pumps: 1 x 145-T Frame GE 5.0 BHP 240V Switchless Booster Pump * Pumps: Eliminator Plus Wet Ends Total Jets: 22 Jets: 12 x Storm Jets CXW 2 x Storm Jets MJW 2 x Sure Flow SFW 6 x Micro Spin MSW Jet Ring Trim: Standard Grey Diverter Valves: 1 x 2" Comfort Diverter Valves Air Control Valves: 2 x Easy-Flo Air Venturi Pillows: 2 x Pillowsage Headrests Plumbing: 2" Pipes Filters: 75 ft² Bio-Clean Anti-Bacterial Filter Intakes: 1 x 1 Bottom Drain: Standard Shell: Acrylic Cabinet Frame: Pressure-Treated Wood Cabinet Panel: Redwood Bottom Tray: Standard Cover: Basic * Warranty: 10 x Years Structure 5 x Years Finish 5 x Years Parts 5 x Years Labor
  14. Spa 1 Jets 60 Pumps: 2 High Pressure 3 HP 220 GPM Pumps/One 2sp & One 1sp Pump & One 1sp 30 GPM 1/15th HP Circulation Pump Electrical Ratings: 240 Volt / 40 AMP / 50 AMP G.F.C.I (Energy Savings) Heater: 240 Volt Heater 6kW Ozone: Ultra-Pure Ozone System Filter: 24 Hour Crystal-Clear Filtration 100 SQ Foot System Pillows: Four Comfort Design Pillows Cover: Safety Locks Deluxe Cover 5"x 3" Tapered Foam Construction & Child Proof Safety Locks Extras: Waterfall, Stereo CD/AM/FM Radio System W/Pop Up Speakes and Cover Lift Lights Muti-Color LED Seats: 6 Adults Construction: Shell Insulated, Foam Barrier W/Full ABS Bottom and Maintenance Free Cabinet Liters 325 US Gallons (Average) Dimensions: 87"x 87"x 37" 87"x 87"x 37" Water Weight: 900 US Lbs. Filled Weight: 36110lbs Warranty Lifetime Spa Structural Warranty 10 Year Surface Warranty Lifetime Manifold Plumbing Warranty 2 Year Electrical Equipment Warranty Spa 2 Total Jets 25 Seating Capacity: 7 Person Dimensions: 93" x 93" x 39½" Dry Weight: 900 lbs Filled Weight: 5,065 lbs Water Capacity: 500 gal Control System: 6200 Smart Control Pack Power Supply: 240V * Heater: 5.5 kW XL Heat Exchanger Lighting: 1 x 12V Large Light w/ Clear, Red, and Blue Lenses Safety System: True Blue Safety Suction System * Booster Pumps: 1 x 145-T Frame GE 5.0 BHP 240V Switchless Booster Pump * Pumps: Eliminator Plus Wet Ends Total Jets: 22 Jets: 12 x Storm Jets CXW 2 x Storm Jets MJW 2 x Sure Flow SFW 6 x Micro Spin MSW Jet Ring Trim: Standard Grey Diverter Valves: 1 x 2" Comfort Diverter Valves Air Control Valves: 2 x Easy-Flo Air Venturi Pillows: 2 x Pillowsage Headrests Plumbing: 2" Pipes Filters: 75 ft² Bio-Clean Anti-Bacterial Filter Intakes: 1 x 1 Bottom Drain: Standard Shell: Acrylic Cabinet Frame: Pressure-Treated Wood Cabinet Panel: Redwood Bottom Tray: Standard Cover: Basic * Warranty: 10 x Years Structure 5 x Years Finish 5 x Years Parts 5 x Years Labor
  15. There are a lot of people, both Dealer/Repair and Consumer, on this Forum with a lot of knowledge. I know that these two tubs are NOT on the top list for most folks on this tub, but this is the budget I have for a Tub. So, one of the two will have to do for now. Now given the situation, if you HAD to buy one of these two Tubs, which one would you choose? Thanks. Please vote in the poll, and please feel free to leave any comments. Thank you.
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