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  1. The pop ups are the only return for my pool. To get them all to "work" at the same time we had to pull all the guts out of the timing mechinism by the filter. After doing that, they all pop up at the same time and not as high as if they should normally which I think is a good thing for the vacuum. It just walks over them. Because they all are sharing the load on the return it doesnt take much pressure to push one down. The cleaner I got has a rectangular opening on the bottom for suction with radii on the leading and trailing sides of it which I think are helping it walk right over them. If it hits one and is not even close to center, it sometimes just walks around it. And the pool is the cleanest it has ever been since we bought the house in September.
  2. I have some cracks in my pool as well. Plaster pool 25+ years old. I asked a proffesional that was out quoting a new pump for me and he said as long as the pool is not losing water its probably just cosmetic. To test for a leak he suggested I do the bucket test. Google pool leak bucket test. He also said that cracks can be repaired without emptying the pool but was against me doing it unless there really was a leak because it wasnt cheap he said. If you have or think you have a leak, you can get dye that you drop near the crack and if there is a leak you will see the flow toward the crack. I guess they sell it in the pool stores or online.
  3. I am a noob too, only had my pool since September of last year (foreclosure fliped house) so take what I say with that percaution because I probably don't know what I am talking about. With my pool, the line you have labled dead end goes to the main drain ( I have only 1 drain). To get mine to work I had to buy what the pool store guy called a check valve that went in the skimmer. It allowed me to adjust suction between skimmer and drain. It was about $25 for the one I got. It fit right under the skimmer basket. The basket gets all the big debris and will help your pump in my opinion because to much crap at the pump basket makes it work harder and need to clean the pump basket less often. Now after getting the valve and basket, I got a in pool vacuum which runs off the skimmer line. If that is what you are doing as well it make the valve, skimmer, and drain not needed. I keep the valve and basket handy for when I dont want to use the cleaner but want to run the system for the aerator or just circulation. Not much help on the jets or light. My light is on the same breaker as the pool pump or so whoever maked the breaker pannel wrote. I need to replace mine too so I can only hope its correct.
  4. Well, I made the switch last week and so far I am VERY happy. The sand shark has a square opening that is bigger than my pop ups but it walks over them just fine. It is not a bladder type, and has gears so friends are telling me that it will become a hassel (but no where as many moving parts as I hear the Haywards have tho and it came with a 2 year parts warrenty). I had a bunch of work done at the pump itself and part of going to this cleaner was gutting the gear box for the pop ups. All 7 of them pop up now but only 1/2 an inch or so and they all reseat when the pump shuts off. I have gone from cleaning by hand every 2 to 3 days to only brushing the steps and sides weekly. I was hoping to get a fix that would get me a year or 2 to save up for a pool redo and I think I found it. I was ready to do what you are thinking about tool Bought the tool to pop them out and drill holes. May be needed in the future but for now it seems to not be needed. Dunno if all yours are poping up or not, but becasue 4 of mine were not before, the amount of junk that spewed out when they finally did was pretty sad. Been testing the pool more right now just in case it was algae.
  5. Hi, sorry for hijacking, but I have a similar problem. Found this forum searching for the same thing. Disabling the in floor pop ups. The pool I have is over 30 years old and the last time they did a remodel they changed to magnaflow pop ups that I guess even if the system was working correct, they are not big enough to do the job. There are only 7 of them spaced 12 or more feet apart and none of the steps. But that was IF it was working correctly. Its now. The gear mechinism is either broke or was pemanently disabled. 3 of the pop ups, one at the shallow end and 2 at the deep end (24000 gallon diving pool) all pop up every time and never rotate. I got quotes to fix what I have and every company had the same comment that the current system is fubar. So I am going to a pool shark pool cleaner. There are no returns other than the pop ups, but I have been told that the system will walk right over the 3 that are work. I was hoping I could pop em out, remove the guts and maybe even drill a hole or series of holes in the top of them for flow. If I can do that, I don't see why I wouldnt be able to lock them in the down position as long as water can flow thru. I don't want to just pop them out and have large holes that can collect debri. But it sounds as if I will have the same problem as the original poster of not having pop ups that are easily "fixed". Sorry for the long post. This is my first pool.
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