jballard

Yes; please do Tom. It might be fun!

Why would you question my integrity? Did I promote anyone else? I also wonder how many real spa owners, as opposed to dealers, are active on this forum.

I bought the cub ss. Have you wet tested any others? I have a lot of other observations if you are interested in anything specific.

The cold weather sales pitch sounded great. All the equipment is in a 4" thick foam cabinet, heat from pumps actually heats the water etc. What noticed was the insulation is very incomplete. There are large gaps all around all of the 8 access doors. The fact is an electric motor is more efficient at cooler temps. So they have to allow enough air gaps to keep them from overheating at the warmest expected temps. Ask to read the owners manual and see what it says about freeze protection (and how many ways they can avoid warrantying things). I believe the best insulating attribute of this spa is actually the cover (full marks for the cover!). The seats would be comfortable if the jets did not stick out, but they do. The jet placement is poor. Think about what part of your back you would like massaged. Kidney jets, rib cage jets, butt crack jets are uncomfortable and I wish I had at least bought a model with less jets. Another reason for this is noise. In order to use all the jets in the "shuttle seat" you need both pumps running. Pump one on low speed is not too bad; pump 2 (I found out later) has only high speed and it is loud. Also there are no foot jets in this seat. It is impossible to relax in the lounger with any type of massage action because these jets are all on pump 2. Sure, you can divert some of the flow elsewhere and you can adjust the flow on each jet but the roaring is too much. The air only mixes with the water on the pump 2 jets as well. The controls are confusing and I had to keep checking the owners manual... (what the heck? how?). Filtration and ozone only work 4 hours per day except of course when it is heating or you are running it. There is a big bypass valve at the bottom of the filter chamber so a lot of the water can bybass the filter. I believe 24/7 ozone/filtration makes much more sense. Some of my observations for what it's worth.