Thanks for the replies. We went back to the HS dealer and were pretty much set on the Vanguard and then my husband had to ask what his best price on the Grandee would be. This is an new (controls on top) 09 Grandee and would include steps, lift, delivery and install, and the wireless stereo system. (No stone on the Grandee) He told us 10300. This throws a wrench into our decision. We have the space for a Grandee, but can't get over how nice the stone looks on the Vanguard. 80% of the Time it will be just my husband and I in the tub, but then we think, it would be nice to have the extra space if we did have company! I like the fountain on the Grandee, but that shouldn't make or break my decision. Back and forth we go. I have to decide in the next couple of days as he is holding the tubs for us. Why did my husband even have to ask? Any comments??