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Does sitting in and breathing the fumes of bromide or chlorine for extended periods of time damage the thyroid? I haven't found any studies pertaining to this. There are only the many reference about the damaging effects of halogens (other than iodine) on the thyroid. I do know that my hypothyroidism is idiopathic and not stemming from any "known" cause, like an autoimmune disease. It seems prudent to avoid any known substances that are known to compete for the iodine receptors. I have installed reverse osmosis in my drinking water to take out the fluoride and chlorine as well. It's also possible that simply reducing the amount of chlorine or bromine by adding supplimental sanitation devices might help. Less halogens is definitely better in my case.

I've recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and am learning a lot about the effects of bromine and chlorine on the thyroid-- none of which are good. I'm seeking a way to sanitize our hot tub without using these chemicals. I've seen the Spa Frog and ozonators mentioned. Our hot tub has a ozonator installed but I don't know if it still works or not (2005 Sundance I bought used). A couple of questions: Is there some way to test the ozonator or should I just replace? When I got lax on adding bromine last winter my husband got hot tub folliculitis so it's not doing all the sanitizing for sure. Do the mineral sanitizers work well and combined with an ozonator will they completely sanitize the spa? How do you test once using these systems to make sure things are still working? Also any other info on how to accomplish this would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry-- I posted this in the wrong place-- have moved to the spa water chemistry section.

So I take it this means that the power consumption for this kind of system is huge compared to a suction robot type system? What about the water circulation benefits of an in-floor system? What, in your opinion, is the best system to put into a new pool to provide as trouble-free cleaning as possible as well as water quality and yet try to keep the energy costs down?

Not sure where to post this so have it up twice, We're comparing pool quotes in the Phoenix valley and have narrowed it down to Presidential and Paddock as our final choices. It's a tough call. The Paddock people were pretty slick and I've read a couple horror stories (albiet all a few years old) online. But I've seen bad things about all the big pool companies and right now they are hungrier and building fewer pools and hopefully more accountable... The biggest thing we're struggling with is the new in-floor cleaning system Paddock offers called the PCC 2000. Per Paddock: "Built into the floor and walls of your pool during construction Pop-up nozzles located throughout the pool bottom shoot streams of water that push debris to the drain area Patented MDX® Main Drain Debris Removal System uses an efficient pump system to transfer waste from the main drain to an easy-to-clean canister at deck level Superior efficiency in water circulation saves you money on chemical & energy costs Custom-designed for your pool Our Money-Back Guarantee promises your PCC2000® will clean better than any automatic swimming pool cleaner on the market** " We went to their pool display store and the salesman threw a handful of gravel into a pool and we saw them come out into the catch canister right away. It's supposed to be far superior to the older type in-floor system. But what do I know? Does ANYONE have any experience with this system and know anything about it, especially how it performs in the long-term?

We're comparing pool quotes in the Phoenix valley and have narrowed it down to Presidential and Paddock as our final choices. It's a tough call. The Paddock people were pretty slick and I've read a couple horror stories (albiet all a few years old) online. But I've seen bad things about all the big pool companies and right now they are hungrier and building fewer pools and hopefully more accountable... The biggest thing we're struggling with is the new in-floor cleaning system Paddock offers called the PCC 2000. Per Paddock: "Built into the floor and walls of your pool during construction Pop-up nozzles located throughout the pool bottom shoot streams of water that push debris to the drain area Patented MDX® Main Drain Debris Removal System uses an efficient pump system to transfer waste from the main drain to an easy-to-clean canister at deck level Superior efficiency in water circulation saves you money on chemical & energy costs Custom-designed for your pool Our Money-Back Guarantee promises your PCC2000® will clean better than any automatic swimming pool cleaner on the market** " We went to their pool display store and the salesman threw a handful of gravel into a pool and we saw them come out into the catch canister right away. It's supposed to be far superior to the older type in-floor system. But what do I know? Does ANYONE have any experience with this system and know anything about it, especially how it performs in the long-term?

I've decided to purchase a used 2005 Sundance Cayman. I see that this spa does not have an ozonator installed and was wondering if I can add one myself. I assume there are advantages to using this for sanitizing. What is recommended for an after-market ozonator? Also this is a one pump model spa-- what exactly is the purpose of having two pumps? Is it just for more jet power or does it have other purposes? Thnx

Well I've decided to get a 2005 Sundance Cayman-- I know it's not a high end Sundance and I see that it has just one pump... but given that I rarely use the jets is this a disadvantage of any kind? The spa is in excellent shape (only driven by a little old lady on Sundays...) and looks almost brand new. Anyone have any experience with this particular spa? What are the pros and cons of 1 vs 2 pump spas? Thx

I've narrowed my search for a used tub down to these two options (both include cover, lifter, and steps); 2005 D1 @Home Dream $2800 + Delivery 2003 Jacuzzi J350 $2800 including Delivery I was wondering what the feedback is on the D1 vs the Jacuzzi is as far as overall durability and efficiency. The Jacuzzi does not have a recliner and I realize I need to try them both out to guage the comfort level but just thought I'd get a sense of what you-all think too. Thanks!

I had posted on here before about being told a spa was a certain age that didn't match the date on the serial number label on the spa. Well it happened again! I went to see a second Sundance ( a Calypso advertised by yet a different spa refurbisher) that was purported to be a 2002 model. We immediately asked to see the control panel and lo and behold the date on that one was 1995! The guy started to tell us some BS story about how parts don't match up the real date of the spa being put into service, blah, blah, blah. I went home and called Sundance and gave them the serial number on that spa and the verdict: the spa was manufactured in 1995 and was delivered to the buyer in 1995. While I had Sundance on the phone I asked about the supposed 2001 Cameo model (that's still in my back yard awaiting pickup by the seller) and was informed that it is indeed a 1997 model (as the plate says) and was sold in 1997. The price of the 1997 model was $2250 including new cover, lifter, delivery and 30 day warranty and the 1995 model they were trying to get $1900. Given that these are 12 and 14 year old spas I hardly think they are worth that. Moral of story: Always check that serial number plate and don't believe anything you are told. It seems pretty unbelieveable to me that this would happen to me twice in a week from 2 different resellers. Go figure... and buyer beware! Sundance spas can be easily reached at (866) 814-3644

I've decided to not go with this spa. Even as an 8 year old unit it was a bit outside my comfort zone to purchase and now as an 11+ year old spa I'm not at all comfortable. Now I'm wading back into that morass known as Craigslist to try to find a decent used tub in my price range. I've looked here and gleaned a lot of good advice so will proceed with caution. I'm really looking for the most energy efficient tub I can find-- can you tell me what to look for in motor options to achieve this? I'm purchasing mostly for the hot water and not the hydrotherapy (I have fibromyalgia and the jets can be annoying or painful to me) so I want a tub that stays pretty hot and is used very frequently. It will be used about 90% of the time by just my husband and myself but would like to be able to seat at least 4 if we have guests. Right now I've seen Jacuzzi, Sundance, Cal Spa, and one labled as "Spa Depot" that are newer tubs right around $2k. Any feedback would be great (I'd wet test before purchasing). Thanks!

I agree. I just need to figure out how much I should discount the value of the hot tub now sitting in my back yard IF I decide to keep it. I've looked at Craigslist and tried to find a comparable tub but haven't seen any. I'm also worried that, given its age, its components will start to break down. Obviously I have no idea how much it was used over the years but is there pretty much a rule of thumb as to when parts start to go on these things? The broker wants me to just take a couple hundred off the price and he'll throw in a year warranty (instead of the 30 days originally offered). Still seems like too much to me... Is there anyone here who sells used tubs and can give me an approximate value? Thanks!

And I should add that this is a Cameo model of Sundance.

OK, I may have made a big mistake here but I can get out of it if I have to... I purchased a used Sundance Spa from a spa refurbishing outfit here in the Phoenix area. It was advertised as a 2001 unit and when we looked at it it looked fine, though the cabinet was a bit worn and sun damaged but had been freshly stained (the broker was selling the unit right out of the original owner's yard where it was up and running). The price was $2250 with a new cover and 30 day warranty. The unit was delivered today and after the deal was finished and the broker left I took off the front panel to wire it up and saw that the serial number plate inside had a manufacture date of August 1997. I was livid because this was now an 11 1/2 year old spa instead of 8 years as I was told. I called the broker and told him that I was very displeased and got a very long drawn-out explanation that the date on the serial number plate really had nothing to do with when the spa was actually put into service and that it could have been warehoused for years before it was actually been used. He had called the original owner and the guy insisted that he'd bought the spa new at the most 8 years ago. So now I'm trying to figure out what to do (I am stopping payment on the check tomorrow and need to renegotiate with the broker or backout). I don't think that the price I paid is right for a tub of this age and I have to decide if I want to keep this tub at all or what price would be fair market value. Also I need to know if there is any truth that a tub with a manufacture date of 1997 would be not sold for 4 years. That seems very far-fetched to me and I told the broker that given the lack of a reciept from the original owner I have to go with the 1997 date. Any ideas on what the value of a tub that age and in good working order (but as far as I can tell all original parts) would be? Thanks!