Wow! and i was feeling so good prior to this, but thanks for your honesty guys. I did see a maxxus spa at a showroom down here in florida and the price tag was close to 14,000. with all the goodies, so i was using that as a starting point, give or take a thousand. I also took into account that the likely hood that a 2 year old spa would have issues would be more in my favor then against, its almost like buying a 2 year old car you do not take that thousands loss when you roll it off the lot, but still getting a deal with miles to spare, but i know there is a chance i could bye a lemon, but he purchased it with a 10 yr warranty, so he could resolve any issues before hand, even when its at my house, as so long as its done prior to sealing the deal, which at that moment the warranty would not be transfered. Does a spa have a title to it or do we write up a bill of sale? Is there companys that sell resale warranty packages for spas? Can someone tell me what the price of a maxxus spa now-a-days goes for new because the price i saw was close to 3 yrs ago, or have the price come down that much. There are a hand full of top of the line spa companys out there, and what i have seen sundance falls within them, so i would figure there top of the line would not be so lame as to last only two years. I would like to know what you guys feel would be a good price for this spa? After reading your posts, I loose nothing by asking the seller to allow me to get it running good prior to paying him all of price since i cant test it dry. What do you think?