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I have never sat in a master spa. but I did look at them on their website. D1 is a far higher quality spa...I am sure you will find it more comfy as well....the Chairman2 or the Diplomat are my favorite.............Now you gotta choose which D1 right? sorry...

I live in PA.... I have logged over 5000 service calls on spas and never noticed an issue with a spa being outside in the winter aside from fading on the cedar skirts....Also one more note on the previous comment. Someone else said its "cheaper to heat air" he was talking about the benefit of running a high hp pump to filter and reping the extra heat given off.....Does anyone know what the biggest enemies of electronic components are???? you guessed it HEAT and MOISTURE.....So again D1 Draws the hot air from the motor/electric compartment for the air "bubbles" (heating water and cooling components) Runs a low wattage pump to filter and heat which also helps heat build up in the compartment.....No I dont own a d1 but if I was going to buy a spa that is the one I would get.......in 5 years servicing Spas I found them to be the best..Thats not just from a service standpoint that includes ease of use/chemicle maintenence etc. I do not know of a better tub than D1... is it possible there is one out there?....Yes, If you find it let me know

So the idea is to use the heat from filtration? fancy way to "spin" or justify running a 4hp 5000 to 7000 watt motor just to filter.......again side by side running costs to keep D1 spa at 104 degrees is going to be much less than a spa that doesnt use a low wattage circulation pump! D1 filters and produces ozone 24/7 combined with their ultrapure pack (or whatever) its called you eliminate the use of messing with costly chemicals........a cap full of shock one or twice a week for grins is about all you will need....

D1 is absolutly the better choice........Two other females huh? Ill come over and show you how to "work the spa" lol......

D1 has a lifetime warranty on its shell as well.......and bottom line is it costs abot 15-16 dollars a month to run one of their largest tubs (400Gal 6 person) Do you really care what type of insulation you have if it costs $50 a month to run? (aside from noise)

Again,,,lots of opinions and facts of how the spa retains heat....................who gives a crap if it holds heat if costs 8 times more to Run the system(heat and filtration) Theoreticly you can have a spa with no insulation and run a very effecient heating system 24/7 to keep it warm.. And still cost less to run than a well insulated system that pulls over 30 amps to heat C,mon guys really, whats the point ???

Perhaps I was trying to keep it too simple. I am sure D1 is not the only tub that is comfortable and is thermaly effecient. Although MOST of the brands I worked on had major cooling when running the blower..I only serviced and repaired about 15 different brands and never got close to the Artic...It sounds like a good tub does it have a seperate circulation pump(low wattage?) my point there is you can leave the cover off and still cost less to run than a tub turning a 4hp motor to to heat it self (more math)

I have to say that I think you guys got off track of the original question. But anyway, Now I have to put my 2 cents in sorry. You were talking about heat loss with certain covers..If your that worried about it get a better cover...The real issue should not be, not as much how well the tub is insulated, but how effeciently it heats and filters....I can tell you a D1 tub uses a approx 90-150 watt pump to heat and filter..Compared to 3000-7000 watts for a 2-5 hp motor...Do the math........Also consider that most other tubs bring in cool air for the "bubbles"..rapidly cooling down the tub..Most salesmen will try to "spin" that as purpose built to cool you down...In my opinion its not to relaxing to get in a nice warm tub and have cool air bubbling on me.....D1 takes the air from the insulated motor compartment so it is preheated. It does not take 5 degrees of temp out of the water that you have to take 4 hrs at 3000- 7000 watts + 3000 watts(heater) to heat back up...............

I installed and serviced hot tubs for a few years. From my expierience Dimension One tubs were the best. I would occasionally have to replace a heater, control panel, flow switch ect... but not nearly as much as the other brands... Definetly look for a tub that has a low wattage circulation pump like D1...Rather than running a 4HP pump just to filter and heat your tub when your not in it...I think D1 has a lifetime warranty on the shell and 5-7 years on misc. parts and labor...they are a little more expensive initially. But you get what you pay for DONT GO TO HOME DEPOT FOR A HOT TUB.... I Serviced at least 15 of the major brands and I was the one hearing all the complaints..D1 by far had the fewest No I dont work for D1 I am just and Electrician out here in PA