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Do a search here...it's a ripoff. I'm guessing you have an Arctic Spa?? What's wrong with good old chlorine or bromine?

Our Sundance Maxxus has LED lighting around the valve knobs, under the waterfalls, and beneath the waterline. It is very powerful, which can also be controlled/managed through the use of the diverter / air valves. It has a great sound system that has a left/right speaker in each corner seat, as well as a subwoofer inside the cabinet. The head unit has an AM/FM tuner, CD player, internal HDD capable of playing MP3s, can play / load from a USB stick, and has a docking station for iPods / iPhones. There is also a line-in input for other sources. Arguably, it is the best stereo in the business. Jacuzzi uses the same head unit, but only places one speaker in each corner, which leaves you hearing only 1 channel in 1 ear (stupid). It has a waterproof remote control which allows you to control the jets, lighting, and stereo. It does have a lounger, but doesn't have external lighting.

hahaha...looks like someone at Arctic is trying to do some damage control...way too obvious!

There is no real benefit to it, its just something HS does differently that they really like to hype. The Sundance's water gets plenty of filtration via the normal circ pump / process, and there is no need to also run the jet pumps through the filters. As you experienced, it adversely effects the output pressure. What is more important? A nice powerful raw (unfiltered) massage jet using water drawn from the main body of the tub , or a weaker jet that is using water drawn through the filters? As well, HS has to use several filters in order to provide the filtering capacity, which is something you should think about with respect to maintenance (cleaning and replacing 5 filters!!) 100% no bypass filtration = overhyped overkill (IMHO)

What ratio of TSP to water?

...however, at the same time, they may be a dealer that simply does not like to "play the game", and as such have given you their rock bottom price. What's worse, a dealer that is willing to tell you his absolute rock-bottom selling price, or one that artificially and significantly inflates their price, and the actual price you will pay depends on your negotiating skills? Believe me, everyone likes to think they are great wheeler-dealers, but I negotiate for a living, and most people who think they are good at negotiating have absolutely no clue. I would suggest you do your homework and see what kind of a deal this offer really is. This is less than my Maxxus 880 cost me, but the Maxxus is a larger tub. If it is decent price for this tub, and the dealer has a good reputation, then I say go for it.

hahaha Welcome to the world of hot tubs!!! When I was shopping, I went in to a local D1 dealer who had a "regular" price posted on a particular tub of ~21K. They also had a "Sale" price posted of $18,499.00 right below that. After speaking with a sales rep for a bit, and when it was evident that I was not too interested in committing to a purchase, he ran to his desk and came back and offered me an "exceptional" price - a builder's discount - of $16,999.00. After poking around a bit, I discovered that I could buy this same tub from a dealer in another city ~2 hrs away, for $12K. ...its just the way this game is played. I have learned that you DO get what you pay for, but at the same time, it is VERY easy to pay waaaay too much. Suggest you do lots of research, check ALL the local dealers, perhaps even call some dealers in nearby cities, etc. and you will eventually get a feel for what you might have to pay, and then YOU will be able to make the decision on what is a fair price (for you). One more thing to consider, is that it is definitely worth it to buy from an established, credible, dependable etc. etc. dealer. In my opinion, it is worth a few extra bucks to have that peace of mind. There are plenty of thigns to go wrong with these things, and having a dealer who provides top notch follow-up service, is key.

I use the silver cartridge in my Maxxus, in addition to the bleach. I think of it as insurance, in case I don't use the tub one night and forget to throw a little bleach in. 30-40 bucks or so for 3-4 months (for the cartridge) isn't too bad, especially considering the money I am saving by not buying spa shop chemicals. I would recommend adding the borates though. I initially didn't add them and noticed the ph bounce fairly regularly. With the borate (Borax), I have noticed a big difference in the consistency of the ph.

I would pick the Sundance over the others. Don't confuse Sundance and Jacuzzi. Even though they are owned by the same company, they are not clones of each other. I owned a J-480 last summer, for about 6 weeks, and then returned it and bought a Sundance Maxxus instead (long story - different thread). The Sundance is head and shoulders superior to the Jacuzzi. You DO get what you pay for!

Do the Tiger River's also use the easy to maintain / cheap to replace 5 filter system the the Hot Springs do? [/sarcasm]

touche'!! :-)

I can't comment about the J-280 and the Sundance Hartford, but I CAN directly compare the two manufacturer's flagship models, the J-480 and the Maxxus, as I have owned both. The Sundance Maxxus is far superior to the Jacuzzi in every aspect. Assuming this same principle applies to the lower end models, I would go with the Sundance. People keep talking about how Sundance and Jacuzzi are owned by the same company, built in the same factory, etc. but that is about the only similarity...they are not simply rebadged versions of each other. Sundance = Lexus....Jacuzzi = Toyota

We bought a 2009 Maxxus a couple months ago and absolutely love it! It replaced a Jacuzzi J-480 that we had for a few weeks, then returned (long story...). The Maxxus is far superior to the J-480 in every way. I highly recommend the Maxxus. That price is less than we paid, but ours was new, and we paid Cdn dollars, so I can't comment on the price. Awesome tub though!

No, only Paradise Bay. Good luck.

Voice....being the elite dealer / businessman you are, would you care to divulge what dealership you run, and in what city please? If you're at all close to me, or any of the cities I frequent, I would love to stop by and check it out in person. And, just out of curiosity, how exactly do you know that you are one of the best in the country? Thanks