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  1. My final 2 cents before I go away again. Are the Costco tubs the equivalent of top of the line tubs like Hot Springs or Marquis? No of course not. Are they the POS some here make them out to be? In my experience with my own tub, no. I consider the $3400 I spent on my tub to be well worth it and I don't think there is a tub out there that can justify a price above $6K based solely on superior components. I work about 15-20 minutes from the Marquis factory and have known several people who work or have worked for them. The actual cost to manufacture one of their spas is about 48%-50% of the MSRP, of course you have to add profit, shipping, marketing, service and dealer markup to that. That brings us to value, which is subjective. People assign value based on their own wants, needs and expectations. What is of high value to one person may of little value to another, that doesn't make either one of them wrong. I purchased my spa where I did for several reasons but the main one was Costco's return policy. This was our first spa and I wasn't going to invest a lot of money in one without knowing that I could return it if it wasn't going to be used past the initial few months. Now that I know that we will continue to use a spa I would be more comfortable buying a spa without the liberal return policy but there is still no way I would pay more than $5K or $6K for one, personally I don't see the value in it. NightRyder
  2. Touchy...Touchy. Your addressing your comments to the wrong person. I'm not the poster who requested your comments/opinion nor were any of mine aimed at you. Chill NightRyder
  3. All fine and good but it's a damn funny way to kill a thread or make it go away.......... That's what I like about this place, always good for a laugh, plus the insight into the mindset of those in the industry is always enlightening. NightRyder
  4. Let's see, you want a thread killed because the topic annoys you, but you continue to keep it alive by reading and posting in it; including responding to a post not directed at you Yeah.......OK NightRyder
  5. Obviously, no one can say one way or the other. My PE I is 2 1/2 years old and doing fine. What will it be doing in 7 1/2 years, I don't know. I've been trying to figure out exactly what about my spa would make it not last...Is it the shell? Doesn't look any different from my neighbors Marquis as far as thickness and finish goes. Is it my Waterway Pumps and jets? My ABS Base? The treated wood frame? My 56 frame motors? My Hydro-Quip control pak? My manifold plumbing? With the exception of the shell, everything about the spa is standard replaceable off the shelf parts. I'm not saying my spa is the equivalent of a Marquis or Hot Springs but for $3400 I'm quite happy with it. Having said all that, would I buy the new PE III for over $5K? Probably not, I can get a $9K Marquis at the yearly factory clearance for that kind of $. NightRyder
  6. It's a nice option to have but I'm sure if Costco were getting any substantial returns they would already have discontinued their relationship with Hydro-Spa. NightRyder
  7. Comfort Therm bats are wrapped in plastic, I used adhesive Velcro - One part attached to the Bat in several locations - The other part attached to a corresponding point on the spa frame. NightRyder
  8. I added 1/4" foil covered foam radiant barrier insulation on the inside of the cabinet panels, and John Manville Comfort Therm poly enclosed fiberglass bats fastened with Velcro for easy remove-ability inside the cabinet. I've had this setup for over 2 years and it works really well. The cost to run my PE I spa averages about $30 to $35 per month during the winter in NW Oregon. NightRyder
  9. Why would I want to return a product thats been trouble free and that I'm happy with? As far as Marquis goes, if I want one I'll take my trailer and drive 45 minutes to the factory during their yearly clearance sale and pick up a full featured/sized spa for less than half the retail price. Personally I have no use for a dealer, I'm not knocking them or anyone who chooses to purchase a spa through one, in fact some people shouldn't buy a spa without one, but they are irrelevant to me. NightRyder
  10. Well now you have, my Platinum I turned two in November. No problems and still very happy with it, but as in all things Electrical/Mechanical whether you pay $3400 (mine), $8000 - Buy it from a dealer or a warehouse, YMMV. NightRyder
  11. Nevermind...Already corrected...
  12. I don't know the markup in their current model, but when I bought my Platinum Elite I the markup was just shy of 15%. I know this because they loaded the spa directly off the delivery truck onto my trailer and the invoice for the entire shipment didn't get removed, I found it when I got home. NightRyder
  13. I've had my Platinum Elite I for just over 2 years and am still very happy with my purchase. I had to contact the CS recently over a minor problem (not the spas fault) and I received excellent service. If your a do it yourself type, want to save some bucks and avoid all the dealer/sales BS the spa is a good deal (IMHO), plus it comes with Costco's money back guarantee. If you want a "name brand" spa and live in the Pacific NW, Marquis has several factory outlet stores in the Salem, OR area. You can buy a factory refurbished Marquis with full warranty for 50% or less than the price of the same model new, of course choice is limited to what they have in stock. Good luck NightRyder
  14. Well, been away for awhile and I see not much has changed (the argument continues ). Just a short update: My Platinum I just passed its 2 year anniversary and is still doing well. My 6 year old grandson accidentally put a hole in the vinyl cover that goes over the spa controls so I called the 800# to order a new one, after explaining what happened they went ahead and replaced it under warranty and even sent me a spare, I know it's only a $5 part but it was still a nice gesture. That's about it, my Wife and I still use our spa 2 to 3 times a week and are still very happy with our purchase. Hope everyone has an enjoyable holiday season, and to those that PM'd me with questions I appologize for the late replies. NightRyder
  15. Glad your getting a response etski: If you need any information on spa care or chemicals please check out Roberts Hot Tubs FAQ section, especially the water maintenance articles by Vermonter and Northman. http://rhtubs/cgi-bin/bbs/config.pll Good luck NightRyder
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