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  1. No suggestions on the diving boards, but i do suggest you check with your insurance carrier to determine whether they will provide coverage for a pool with a diving board.
  2. Our pool is similar to yours. It is approximately 16 x 35 with an attached spa. Depth at each end is 3 1/2, for about 6 feet, then slopes to about 6 ft in the center. At one point, i thought the ends should have been 6 inches deeper, but all in all, the depth is fine. Easy to stand/relax at the ends and the slope is not excessive as far as i can tell. Nobody complains about the slope when they are in it. And the slope adds a little challenge during volley ball games. Enjoy your pool.
  3. Anyone ever use Shoreline Pools in Harwich MA?
  4. Get a signed letter/agreement. Emails, while useful for communication, generally won't hold up in court.
  5. Pool-Newb - attached is the article. Newsday.com Huntington approves ban on outdoor wood-burning devices BY DEBORAH S. MORRIS deborah.morris@newsday.com 8:13 PM EDT, May 25, 2009 The Huntington Town board has unanimously approved a measure to ban outdoor wood-burning devices beginning in January. The banned devices, which resemble outdoor sheds with a tall smoke stack affixed at the top, burn wood to heat water that is pumped through underground pipes to a home's plumbing and heating systems and sometimes even pools. The measure was passed during the town board meeting of May 19. "These devices are incredibly carcinogenic," said board member Susan Berland, sponsor of the legislation. "The emissions that these things let off are awful and have been banned in other states." The measure says the only time the units, sometimes called outdoor wood-boiling furnaces or outdoor wood boilers, would be allowable would be during an emergency or natural disaster. Burt Tobin, a distributor of the devices through his company Catskill Boiler Company in upstate Greenville, said the ban makes sense in Huntington and other densely populated areas. "Unless someone is sitting out on 5 acres of land somewhere, a [outdoor] wood boiler has no place," said Tobin, who lived in Brooklyn and attended Hofstra. But he said there should not be an overall ban because in rural communities, including the East End of Long Island, the units are beneficial and economical. In 2006 Berland sponsored legislation that defined what could - and could not - be burned in all wood-burning devices, and limited the use of outdoor wood-burning devices. "People who use them often throw everything into these things to burn," Berland said, "from soup to nuts, things that you are not supposed to burn," such as painted wood and even solid fuel. The ban only applies to outdoor wood-burning devices that are used to heat indoor spaces, swimming pools or hot tubs. "You can still have wood-burning stoves in your home, you can still have fire pits outside, barbecues, it doesn't ban any of that," Berland said. "Just this one type of device which is really bad for the environment." Berland said currently no one in the town has a permit to have such a device. Anyone found to have one will receive a first-time penalty of between $250 and $1,000. Second or subsequent offenders will receive a penalty between $1,000 and $2,500.
  6. Just wanted to pass along a little information. I live on Long Island NY. Recently, one of the towns passed an ordinance prohibiting the use of wood-fired heaters for purposes of heating a pool. Reason was primarily due to air quality issues. Experience has borne out that once one town on Long Island moves, others follow.
  7. Lisa, We are in Lavallette NJ and have the same limitations. Regarding permeable pavers, some towns count them as a percentage of coverage but ours counts them towards coverage without any adjustment. Since you are already over the limit, it doesn't help either way. Also, our town considers composite or wood decks as coverage the same as concrete so if you decide to go with some form of decking, make sure the town signs off that it does not count towards coverage before you go ahead. Many of the towns in NJ use a similar building code, but have slightly different interpretations. I asked last year why the pool isn't considered impervious and was told that the rule is for drainage purposes. The pool provides a place for water runoff rather than it going into the street or your neighbors yard.
  8. Pool Clown, If you like unbelievable pics, go to Thisoldhouse.com, and type nightmares in the search box. This will pull up a series of photo galleries by home inspectors. The things people do in their homes are extremely amusing - and incredibly dangerous.
  9. Poolfan, We had a pool installed last year in a high water table area at the New Jersey shore (water depth 24 inches) and decided on stainless steel/vinyl liner for some of the reasons discussed above. Suggest you take at a post by Robert 1312, on sept 7 2008 titled Help! Water Table Issues, last response by jkusmier on 9/12/08 which has some discussion on the issue and also the following post by me. Hope this helps. Agree with the above responses regarding water table and the need for well points. We had a liner pool installed this year (actually 2 pools after the first one was removed for not complying with local codes related to setback requirement - builders fault and nickel- not ours). The max depth on the pool is 6 feet and the builder hit water at 24 inches. Well points were used to keep the area dry and well point lines were installed for future use if necessary (i.e. liner changes, etc). One other comment regarding a diving board and an 8'6" depth - seems to be too shallow to me so you should perhaps ask for other opinions. Also, you should check with your insurance carrier. Mine told me in no uncertain terms that a diving board or a slide would nullify coverage. In fact, she said that insurance companies sere sending letters to policy holders informing them that either had to be removed by certain dates or policies would be cancelled. This was in the New Jersey shore area.
  10. We put a pool in earlier this year. I'm not sure what a reasonable schedule is - as a buyer the later the better. There is one thing I learned. Our contract called for final payment when water was going into the pool. Stupid me - I thought the pool would be done at that point. It isn't. It needs to be backfilled, tested, inspected, etc. Make sure you understand when it the pool builder will be complete. In our case, that pool had to be ripped up and re-installed since the builder installed it in violation of local setback requirements. He did it on his nickel but I will admit I had very little leverage if he had abandoned the project.
  11. Agree with the above responses regarding water table and the need for well points. We had a liner pool installed this year (actually 2 pools after the first one was removed for not complying with local codes related to setback requirement - builders fault and nickel- not ours). The max depth on the pool is 6 feet and the builder hit water at 24 inches. Well points were used to keep the area dry and well point lines were installed for future use if necessary (i.e. liner changes, etc). One other comment regarding a diving board and an 8'6" depth - seems to be too shallow to me so you should perhaps ask for other opinions. Also, you should check with your insurance carrier. Mine told me in no uncertain terms that a diving board or a slide would nullify coverage. In fact, she said that insurance companies sere sending letters to policy holders informing them that either had to be removed by certain dates or policies would be cancelled. This was in the New Jersey shore area.
  12. Both pool companies indicated that they would likely have to "de-water" the area with well points, drilling holes at the perimeter and pumping the water out while installing the pool. This was done for the install and cost an additional $2,500. When they installed the pool, they also installed well point lines so that if the pool needs to be drained in the future, they would attach a pump to the existing lines and begin pumping.
  13. well we are really set on an in-ground for now...There are a few houses that have inground pools close by us,but they might be on slightly higher ground..For right now we jus want to figure out the best way to get the ground tested....thanks for the replies so far.. I am new to pool ownership so i won't give advice, just facts. We just had an in ground pool installed at our house at the jersey shore. We are on a barrier island, about 750 feet from the ocean and the bay. Generally, you can hit water at about 24 inches deep. our pool is 3 1/2 feet at the end down to 6 feet in the middle. we spoke to 2 builders (one gunite, one steel wall/vinyl liner), neither of whom said the water table was a problem for THEIR pool but would be a problem for the other type of pool. Pool is in, seems fine.
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