Leeboy Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 My neighbours have a pool and their parents have a hot tub and they both use something called Blue Magic . I can't find much info on it , I typed,it into the forum search and nothing came up. Just curious on what it is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeboy Posted August 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Found out a bit more about blue magic. Sounds like its copper based http://www.environmental-expert.com/products/blue-magic-pools-hot-tubs-and-spas-212369 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem geek Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 There is more at this link. This MSDS indicates that it contains the following: Copper present as cupric ion modified with ionizing agent to increase bioavailability: 0 5.3% copper (CAS# 7758-98-7). Proprietary ionizing agent containing 3.6% buffered sulfuric acid with stabilizers, sequestering agents, dispersing agents and water: 94.7% 95%. and the conditions of product reactivity says that it "Chelates Iron, Zinc, Magnesium, Manganese, Copper, Silver & other metals" so likely has a chelating agent in it, most likely to help prevent metal staining (though lowers the active copper concentration) and the hazardous decomposition products says "Sulfuric fumes may be generated by thermal decomposition" so the product contains some sulfur compounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks for that Chem , so are you saying thumbs up or thumbs down to blue magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem geek Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 BlueMagic is copper ions which by itself is not a disinfectant, does not kill fecal bacteria, and does not oxidize bather waste. There are four EPA-approved disinfectants for use in spas: chlorine, bromine, Baquacil/biguanide/PHMB, and Nature2 with MPS. The Nature2 has silver ions which when used with MPS are together a fast acting disinfectant. For swimming pools, the EPA-approved disinfects are the same except not Nature2 (even with MPS it does not disinfect fast enough at cooler pool temperatures). Chlorine alone will disinfect and oxidize and with the proper FC/CYA ratio algae growth will be prevented as well. So there is no need for algaecides, phosphate removers, clarifiers, flocculants, enzymes, or other products and for an outdoor residential pool the UV in sunlight breaks down chlorine into hydroxyl radicals so there's no need for an ozonator. For a spa that is more heavily used, an ozonator can be helpful. So whether you want to use an additional product with chlorine, that's up to you but it is not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks Chem, great explanation. More important , I wanna give a shout out to Chem for helping make this the best hot tub forum out there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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