earthtones Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hi-- We are about to begin construction of our pool, but recently asked our contractor for prices on a few potential changes (after reading a great post on this forum re: pool options people couldn't live without). Given the prices for the equipment found online, we are surprised at how high the builder has bid on these changes: * Furnish & install a Jandy automated pool lighting and filter system w/wireless remote: $4,200 * Furnish & install Pentair salt chlorinator: $1,800 * Furnish & install Pentair LED lights in pool (this would replace the two standard lights already spec'd): $840 Does anyone have any thoughts on whether these prices sound reasonable? (We are in Washington, DC, which is a pricey market.) Also, any thoughts on whether we would be better off just going with our original contract (which includes 2 300W standard lights, Hayward offline chemical chlorination system, and 2 time clocks to control filter pump and pool cleaner), and then making these changes later. My husband is quite handy and my father is an electrician, so another option might be for them to install at least the Jandy controls at some later point. I'd appreciate any wisdom you can impart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps558 Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hi-- We are about to begin construction of our pool, but recently asked our contractor for prices on a few potential changes (after reading a great post on this forum re: pool options people couldn't live without). Given the prices for the equipment found online, we are surprised at how high the builder has bid on these changes: * Furnish & install a Jandy automated pool lighting and filter system w/wireless remote: $4,200 * Furnish & install Pentair salt chlorinator: $1,800 * Furnish & install Pentair LED lights in pool (this would replace the two standard lights already spec'd): $840 Does anyone have any thoughts on whether these prices sound reasonable? (We are in Washington, DC, which is a pricey market.) Also, any thoughts on whether we would be better off just going with our original contract (which includes 2 300W standard lights, Hayward offline chemical chlorination system, and 2 time clocks to control filter pump and pool cleaner), and then making these changes later. My husband is quite handy and my father is an electrician, so another option might be for them to install at least the Jandy controls at some later point. I'd appreciate any wisdom you can impart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps558 Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hi-- We are about to begin construction of our pool, but recently asked our contractor for prices on a few potential changes (after reading a great post on this forum re: pool options people couldn't live without). Given the prices for the equipment found online, we are surprised at how high the builder has bid on these changes: * Furnish & install a Jandy automated pool lighting and filter system w/wireless remote: $4,200 * Furnish & install Pentair salt chlorinator: $1,800 * Furnish & install Pentair LED lights in pool (this would replace the two standard lights already spec'd): $840 Does anyone have any thoughts on whether these prices sound reasonable? (We are in Washington, DC, which is a pricey market.) Also, any thoughts on whether we would be better off just going with our original contract (which includes 2 300W standard lights, Hayward offline chemical chlorination system, and 2 time clocks to control filter pump and pool cleaner), and then making these changes later. My husband is quite handy and my father is an electrician, so another option might be for them to install at least the Jandy controls at some later point. I'd appreciate any wisdom you can impart. If I am understanding this correctly. You want to install a Jandy controller that will control the pumps and lights and a add a salt generator? First off you can go with standard lights for now and when the bulbs burn out you can replace them with a color Led bulb from J&J electronics. How about a Goldline Aqua-rite control system with a salt generator included. This will control all pool functions and then some and it includes a salt generator and is all from the same manufacture. Goldline are the ones who started the salt gen for private pools and at one time made them for Jandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonPool&Supply Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 the units are easy enough to hook up as long as you familiarize yourself with the instructions...wiring these units is very basic electrical work chlormatic made saltwater units for Jandy....if youre gonna install a Jandy aqualink add the swg kit into it dont ever buy the Pentair intellichlor...it is a piece of junk...and it wont interface with your automation the Jandy aqualink is the easiest unit to use and program...the goldline unit is alright but to me is not as high quality as the Jandy aqualink.... switching the bulbs to leds later is a decent idea but I'd just do it from the get go...Jandy just came out with LED lights... by all means...stay away from Pentair...their electronics are programmed by aliens...over time I have found that Jandy equipment is the most reliable and their automation systems are alot more intuitive than any other on the market.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtones Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Thank you both for the insight and advice. Is there anyone else out there with an opinion about the Pentair swg, positive or negative? Any opinions about the Jandy automation with the swg add-on? Wisdom of using different manufacturers' products? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonPool&Supply Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 my opinions are formed totally upon experience...80% of my business is high end automated residential pools...aka I am in daily contact with this equipment I used to be a fan of Pentair...mainly cause it worked fine at the time, and I had not been exposed to alot of the other manufacturers.... then **** started malfunctioning...and Pentair equipment is a p.i.t.a. in general....its like working on my ford vs my honda....everything on the ford is a pain to get to and fix vs. the honda which, when rarely malfunctions...is easy to diagnose and repair in any event...I have found Jandy equipment to be the most reliable and easiest to use in general...their stuff is right on Pentair with cost but soars above in quality...and sure it costs more than Hayward crap...but thats exactly what most Hayward equipment is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorn Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Go with everything Pentair, either Intellitouch or compools EZ touch(very simple basic). They go under the CP model name based on how many featuers you require. Intellichlor generator(1 breakable item- the cell vs all other manufacturers salt generators @ 2). you'll drive yourself insane troubleshooting other chlorinaters when they malfunction NOT too mention the attitude of some of the techs at Hayward and Jandy. Have built and worked on many pools including new pools in South Florida where homeowners were given just the worst possible combinations of equipment and most of it was stuff given at huge discounts or even free to the builder(by the manufacturer). Not building pools anymore but you are more than welcome to pick my brain and feel free to contact me rev20007@bellsouth.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorn Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Go with everything Pentair, either Intellitouch or compools EZ touch(very simple basic). They go under the CP model name based on how many featuers you require. Intellichlor generator(1 breakable item- the cell vs all other manufacturers salt generators @ 2). you'll drive yourself insane troubleshooting other chlorinaters when they malfunction NOT too mention the attitude of some of the techs at Hayward and Jandy. Have built and worked on many pools including new pools in South Florida where homeowners were given just the worst possible combinations of equipment and most of it was stuff given at huge discounts or even free to the builder(by the manufacturer). Not building pools anymore but you are more than welcome to pick my brain and feel free to contact me rev20007@bellsouth.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonPool&Supply Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 now I say this with all due respect like ricky bobby... how can you say an intellitouch is easy to use...an easytouch is better but still bad....it is the biggest pain in the ass to program...i used to be an ace with those and it would take easily take 30-45 minutes to set up a basic shared equipment setup....oh yea and bump setting up lights on those things...i wanted to throw that gay ass remote of theirs into a brick wall...their user manual was written by someone who things the number 7 comes before the number 2...i'll go on for days.... the FIRST jandy setup I did was a dual equipment with about 10 other circuits, and also was a onetouch....meaning I had alot more to setup than your basic shared equipment which most people have.... it took me 15 MINUTES!! not to mention the homeowner (who is probably legally retarted) has never had a problem figuring out how to use it meanwhile a ton of a homeowners with the Pentair always are getting lost...even those who have had several pools in the past after that I told Pentair to suck it and stopped remembering how to program their backwards ass automation systems... I guess everyone's got their opinions and we'll always argue pentair vs jandy, ford vs. chevy, cowboys vs. redskins.....but i just wanna have a timed match with programming those things and then handing them to the average joe homeowner to settle the score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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